And the next scenario should be....

[Devil 505]

If you all run a 12 hour event, I urge you to talk to Nefarius and I about how we balanced the last one. It was an absolute grueling exercise with a massive spreadsheets counting each object on each target, damage each of the bombers could do, reasonable expectation of survival, and an incredible item by item, plane by plane, hour by hour expectation on balance with a specific formula to adjust hardness based on turnout if needed.
Trust us, 12 solid hours literally came down to one final run at the end of the day.
If you don't put that much detail into the setup, it may be difficult run.

I hear you there, ROC. You guys did an outstanding job on that one. And that's why we're clamoring for another. 

[Brooke]

If you all run a 12 hour event, I urge you to talk to Nefarius and I about how we balanced the last one.

Absolutely.

The one you guys did was a huge success, and I bet there are many things -- balancing and other things -- for which expert input from you guys would be of vital importance.

[Randall172]

battle of manchuria / August Storm

[ROC]

This isn't the final draft for Target For Today, but here's a look into the detail that can go into an event if anyone has a free 2 months to kill    This is just version 6, not sure where it was that we stopped but this one was close.

https://southernconquest.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/copy-of-target-for-today-object-list-v6.xlsx

[Brooke]

Here's what I suggest.

Let's gather here all recommendations for the theme of the battle (i.e., Battle of Britain, late-war 8th AF, New Guinea, North Africa, etc.).  I'll filter from the list any where a terrain doesn't exist.

Then I'll have a vote where people can pick their top two choices.

From that vote, I will narrow the list down to the three themes that got the most votes.

Then we'll have a final vote on that list along with which format it should be, 4-frame or 12-hour.

[wil3ur]

Winter War!

[Devil 505]

Then we'll have a final vote on that list along with which format it should be, 4-frame or 12-hour.

Why not have a 12 hour frame during a conventional scenario? Just a thought.

[Brooke]

battle of manchuria / August Storm

We don't have a terrain for that, I don't think.

[Brooke]

Winter War!

Not sure if we can get Karelia terrain.

[Brooke]

The list so far (with possible aircraft, although we probably need to reduce the list of aircraft in some cases):

Battle of Britain.  Britain's finest hour.  Spit I's, Hurri I's vs. 109F's, 110C's, He 111's, and Ju 88's.

New Guinea, 1943.  Fierce fighting involving Japan's highest-scoring aces.  Ki-43, Ki-61, maybe Betty?, P-40, P-38G, B-25.

Channel Dash.  The Kriegsmarine is trying to get Scharnhorst, Gneisenau, and Prinz Eugen to safety.  The Luftwaffe put up a huge moving CAP over the Channel, and the RAF struck in force.  Spit V, Hurri II, Beaufort, Wellington, Swordfish, 109F, 190A-5, 110C, maybe Ju 88.

North Africa.  Fights in the desert of North Africa.  A very fun plane set and nice change of terrain.  Spit V, Spit IX, P-38G, P-40, P-39, A-20, B-25, Boston, 109G, 109F, 190A-5, 110C, C.202, Ju 88.

Late-war 8th AF.  8th AF strategic bombing with high-alt escorts vs. high-alt Luftwaffe.  Like DGS/BOG.  P-51, P-47, P-38, B-17, B-24, 109G-14, 109K, 190D, maybe some 190A-8.

Cactus Air Force.  These guys fought out of Henderson Field on Guadalcanal under very tough conditions and held the place against concerted and repeated Japanese air attacks.  This is where Joe Foss fought.  A6M2, A6M3, D3A, G4M, F4F, P-39, SBD, TBM.

Battle of the Bismarck Sea.  A major engagement in the Guadalcanal Campaign with a good matchup of aircraft.  Ki-43, Zero, P-40, P-39, P-38G, A-20, B-25, singleton B-17/B-24.

Battle of the Santa Cruz Islands.  A battle between carrier groups.  Zero, D3A, B5N, F4F, SBD, TBM.

Late-war Philippines.  A fight with late-war Japanese fighters and bombers.  Ki-84, N1K1, Ki-61, A6M5b, Ki-67, P-47, P-38, F4U, F6F, B-25, B-24.

[Brooke]

Why not have a 12 hour frame during a conventional scenario? Just a thought.

We could propose that, or two 12-hour frames.

[Brooke]

One more I'd like to propose:

Modified D-Day.  Like D-Day, but with strong Luftwaffe opposition.  So, D-Day aircraft set on allied side, but later-war Luftwaffe stuff in equal abundance in opposition.  This one is usually quite fun when we run it as This Day in WWII.  It would work as a 4-frame and perhaps especially well as 12-hour.

[Nefarious]

Target for Today was originally supposed to be Operation Overlord...  But after lots of going back and forth I decided to drop GVs and presented TFT instead.

Thanks for all the interest,  glad everyone had a great time.

[PJ_Godzilla]

One difficulty with PTO, by the way, is that early-war is OK (Zeros vs. P-40's, FM-2's), and late war is OK (late-war Japanese stuff), but if you are putting Zeros or Ki-43's up against P-38's, Corsairs, P-47's, it gets very grim for the Japanese side.  So in-between stuff can get difficult.

Maybe not impossible to think of good matchups, but it has challenges at times.

This is where the Shoki (Ki-44) would help. it'd give the Japanese forces a mid-war cannonbird with which to hit those bombers. It'd also be a good mix fighter for the extremely turny Oscars. It's nothing great on paper, but I think it'd help offset the inherent Allied speed/firepower advantage, or at least make life a little trickier for them. 

A few months back we had a similar FSO scenario and ,yes, it gets tough to be flying the meatball. The Oscar is pretty survivable, but you really have to saddle up to get anything other than the assist. And, of course, if the Allies feel like it, they just hit the throttle and run. 

[LCADolby]

Not sure if we can get Karelia terrain.

Kanttori made it didn't he?