What's with these "Millenials"?

[NatCigg]

The article linked from Patrick Deneen, Minding the Campus, February 2, 2016. At least for America, can help us to not apply a blanket label called "millennial". Instead look at a process that has been in place to achieve an outcome for fitting this generation into another culture some of us do not agree with, which elevates the denial of America as a core principle to fitting in.

Calling them millennials does both sides a disservice since not all of them fit the model most see in their mind when they hear "millennial". The greater grievance which seems to be lost upon the millennial generation, is their lack of common western classical knowledge and social norms which has been required up until their generation, to maintain the unique culture called America. The 100 great works of western civilization are no longer required reading or encountered in most public institutions other than as a component of a specialized degree.

They seem to be very conflicted on what is America, what is an American, and lack any attachment to the visceral national identity of being an American. So at this point, we might as well be south america, china, or even syria from their point of view so long as they have jobs, the internet and what ever else gets them through the day.

http://www.mindingthecampus.org/2016/02/how-a-generation-lost-its-common-culture/   

Very interesting.  I'm reminded of the 60s counter culture.  The movement is strong, I would like see this "revolution" introduce a 4th party and get things back to the old days!

[Coalcat1]

Maybe it's not proper flag etiquette, but lowering the flag for policemen murdered in the line of duty seems more worthy than it does for the death of a politician.

Lowering the flag to half staff on days such as September 11 and December 7 as well seems respectful at the least.

[Shuffler]

Lowering the flag to half staff on days such as September 11 and December 7 as well seems respectful at the least.

While you may think so it is not. Today people have so little respect for our flag that they lower it for most anything. I'd prefer they not fly our flag at all if they are going to disrespect it so.

[Rolex]

There are car dealers (Right Toyota, Right Honda and Pinnacle Nissan) down the street from me in my Scottsdale place. One, Pinnacle, flies a nasty, dirty flag and all three leave them them up all night unlit.

They never fly them correctly. They are at half mast for weeks at a time after they decide to fly them at half mast. They are at full mast when they're supposed to be at half mast.

Naturally, all the idiot companies along the street flollow what they do, since their wrongly flown flags are at the top of the highest poles.

I've called a few times to tell them the flag was supposed to be at full mast a week ago (for example) and they got angry at me. I didn't think about hiding my phone number, but I should of, because I started getting harrassing phone calls from them.

The flag seems to be nothing more than a sales tool now.

[Traveler]

I see people who think they love this country, lower our Flag for almost anything that happens today. The Flag is to be lowered on the passing of Heads Of State.

Folks doing so otherwise are showing disrespect for our Flag and our Country.

That's not what the code says, The US Code for the flag does not say "Heads of State"  and it allows the President and State Governors to order the lowering of the flag and define the period that the flag will be at half staff.

[Traveler]

While you may think so it is not. Today people have so little respect for our flag that they lower it for most anything. I'd prefer they not fly our flag at all if they are going to disrespect it so.

(d) The flag should be displayed on all days, especially on New Year’s Day, January 1; Inauguration Day, January 20; Martin Luther King Jr.’s birthday, third Monday in January; Lincoln’s Birthday, February 12; Washington’s Birthday, third Monday in February; Easter Sunday (variable); Mother’s Day, second Sunday in May; Armed Forces Day, third Saturday in May; Memorial Day (half-staff until noon), the last Monday in May; Flag Day, June 14; Father’s Day, third Sunday in June; Independence Day, July 4; National Korean War Veterans Armistice Day, July 27; Labor Day, first Monday in September; Constitution Day, September 17; Columbus Day, second Monday in October; Navy Day, October 27; Veterans Day, November 11; Thanksgiving Day, fourth Thursday in November; Christmas Day, December 25; and such other days as may be proclaimed by the President of the United States; the birthdays of States (date of admission); and on State holidays.

[Shuffler]

(d) The flag should be displayed on all days, especially on New Year’s Day, January 1; Inauguration Day, January 20; Martin Luther King Jr.’s birthday, third Monday in January; Lincoln’s Birthday, February 12; Washington’s Birthday, third Monday in February; Easter Sunday (variable); Mother’s Day, second Sunday in May; Armed Forces Day, third Saturday in May; Memorial Day (half-staff until noon), the last Monday in May; Flag Day, June 14; Father’s Day, third Sunday in June; Independence Day, July 4; National Korean War Veterans Armistice Day, July 27; Labor Day, first Monday in September; Constitution Day, September 17; Columbus Day, second Monday in October; Navy Day, October 27; Veterans Day, November 11; Thanksgiving Day, fourth Thursday in November; Christmas Day, December 25; and such other days as may be proclaimed by the President of the United States; the birthdays of States (date of admission); and on State holidays.

You might as well burn it like the demo protesting yesterday tried to.

You have no respect for our flag.

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[TheBug]

Might want to get your facts straight before you go off half cocked there claiming to be some great patriot.

The flag, when flown at half-staff, should be first hoisted to the peak for an instant and then lowered to the half-staff position. The flag should be again raised to the peak before it is lowered for the day. On Memorial Day the flag should be displayed at half-staff until noon only, then raised to the top of the staff. By order of the President, the flag shall be flown at half-staff upon the death of principal figures of the United States Government and the Governor of a State, territory, or possession, as a mark of respect to their memory. In the event of the death of other officials or foreign dignitaries, the flag is to be displayed at half-staff according to Presidential instructions or orders, or in accordance with recognized customs or practices not inconsistent with law. In the event of the death of a present or former official of the government of any State, territory, or possession of the United States or the death of a member of the Armed Forces from any State, territory, or possession who dies while serving on active duty, the Governor of that State, territory, or possession may proclaim that the National flag shall be flown at half-staff, and the same authority is provided to the Mayor of the District of Columbia with respect to present or former officials of the District of Columbia and members of the Armed Forces from the District of Columbia. When the Governor of a State, territory, or possession, or the Mayor of the District of Columbia, issues a proclamation under the preceding sentence that the National flag be flown at half-staff in that State, territory, or possession or in the District of Columbia because of the death of a member of the Armed Forces, the National flag flown at any Federal installation or facility in the area covered by that proclamation shall be flown at half-staff consistent with that proclamation. The flag shall be flown at half-staff 30 days from the death of the President or a former President; 10 days from the day of death of the Vice President, the Chief Justice or a retired Chief Justice of the United States, or the Speaker of the House of Representatives; from the day of death until interment of an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court, a Secretary of an executive or military department, a former Vice President, or the Governor of a State, territory, or possession; and on the day of death and the following day for a Member of Congress. The flag shall be flown at half-staff on Peace Officers Memorial Day, unless that day is also Armed Forces Day. As used in this subsection—
(1)   the term “half-staff” means the position of the flag when it is one-half the distance between the top and bottom of the staff;

(2)   the term “executive or military department” means any agency listed under sections 101 and 102 of title 5, United States Code; and

(3)   the term “Member of Congress” means a Senator, a Representative, a Delegate, or the Resident Commissioner from Puerto Rico.

[bustr]

Most of the classic literature pieces are banned from public schools for being "offensive".  I'll leave it at that, but that brings up another point about my generation.  When did everybody become so frickin sensitive??  Somebody hurt your feelings?  Who cares!?!  Sort it out and move on.

The article explains this self fulfilling vicious circle. The 100 great works teach individualism, critical thinking, principled conduct, and moral absolutes. That is why they are banned from publics schools in favor of membership in the collective for the common good based on social justice wrapped up in moral ambiguity. Hurt feelings are todays social morality acting as the same peer control as we experienced in the past when we pledged allegiance to the flag every morning in grade school and went to Sunday school.

A single culturally disassociated generation has been the holy grail since the 50's to fundamentally changing America. It has always been there in the writings of the early American communist and socialist party's and the founder of the ACLU's biography. Like no one in 1970 would have taken you seriously predicting gay marriage would win in the supreme court 45 years later. No one took seriously that children were not being taught American values in public school starting in the late 60's building into an avalanche of anti Americanism and anti critical thinking by 2016.

Much of internet dialoged reads like twitter while the participants shame you for trying to use principled critical thinking to write responses longer than a few sentences. How did so many learn the same attitude in the vacuum of their individuality?   

[NatCigg]

me me me! Pick me! *raises hand  <-------- <--- <-- <-

agh-hum, The Internet.

[Traveler]

You might as well burn it like the demo protesting yesterday tried to.

You have no respect for our flag.

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You sir are an idiot.  I have a great deal of respect for our nations flag.  What I copied and posted was from the Federal Code that governs the keeping and displaying of our flag.  The actual code.  I suggest that you read the entire code before you shoot off your mouth.  It appears that you don't know what you are whining about.

[TheBug]

And look Shuffler isn't a millennial.   

[Tumor]

The article explains this self fulfilling vicious circle. The 100 great works teach individualism, critical thinking, principled conduct, and moral absolutes. That is why they are banned from publics schools in favor of membership in the collective for the common good based on social justice wrapped up in moral ambiguity. Hurt feelings are todays social morality acting as the same peer control as we experienced in the past when we pledged allegiance to the flag every morning in grade school and went to Sunday school.

A single culturally disassociated generation has been the holy grail since the 50's to fundamentally changing America. It has always been there in the writings of the early American communist and socialist party's and the founder of the ACLU's biography. Like no one in 1970 would have taken you seriously predicting gay marriage would win in the supreme court 45 years later. No one took seriously that children were not being taught American values in public school starting in the late 60's building into an avalanche of anti Americanism and anti critical thinking by 2016.

Much of internet dialoged reads like twitter while the participants shame you for trying to use principled critical thinking to write responses longer than a few sentences. How did so many learn the same attitude in the vacuum of their individuality?

OOOOoooooohhh!  You askin for it bustr!

[Shuffler]

You sir are an idiot.  I have a great deal of respect for our nations flag.  What I copied and posted was from the Federal Code that governs the keeping and displaying of our flag.  The actual code.  I suggest that you read the entire code before you shoot off your mouth.  It appears that you don't know what you are whining about.

I refer you to U.S. Code 4 Section 7. I won't lower myself to name call on like you millennial.

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[TheBug]

Umm, what I cut and pasted was from section 7 and what Traveler cut and pasted was from section 6.  So you saying he has no respect for the flag, especially since I believe he is a combat veteran, makes you an idiot as he stated.  I believe the reply you were looking for was "I'm sorry I misspoke there are other occasions the flag may be flown at half-staff and I'm not the great patriot I like to believe I am".