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Re: Never 10
« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2016, 08:39:10 PM »
(cough)There is one way to fix this *cough* update problem [cough]>cough <linux@cough@#cough# ;)
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Re: Never 10
« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2016, 08:45:15 PM »
Oh, it is absolutely on the other end.  Microsoft appears to be deliberately delaying Windows updates to anyone not running Windows 10.  It is another way to try and coerce people to change to Windows 10.

That's got to be it. There's just no way that it can be linked to the 3rd party software installed on people compters.    :uhoh

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Re: Never 10
« Reply #17 on: September 11, 2016, 06:30:06 AM »
That's got to be it. There's just no way that it can be linked to the 3rd party software installed on people compters.    :uhoh

Considering I have a box stock Windows 7 system (nothing but AH installed) to test with and it takes over 24 hours to get a list of updates, I would say it has nothing to do with third party software.

Go put a network analyzer on your Windows 7 Ethernet port and get back to me with your findings.  More than happy to exchange information about that.

One other fact to chew on.  These long delays for getting updates coincided with the "Get Windows 10" marketing program.
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Re: Never 10
« Reply #18 on: September 11, 2016, 04:37:23 PM »
I would love to take you up on that so we can have a splendid conversation and compare notes. However, I am unable to accomplish the task you suggested at the current time as I'm trying to recover some files that mysteriously got deleted off my computer when Windows shut down on me in the middle of editing a video and did some sort of update. Once I have successfully recovered the data and figured out who has been using my credit card then I will be able to follow up on this experiment and we'll be able to get to the underlying problem at hand.


Also, do you have any ETA on when my computer is suppose to break on me like you have stated before? I'd like to know beforehand and prepare for such an event.

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Re: Never 10
« Reply #19 on: September 11, 2016, 10:25:49 PM »
latrobe I havent been able to do any updates on my computer for several months now.  it took almost 24hr last night just to check for updates untill i finally gave up and closed it.

I have no 3rd party software other than ah2 and 3 and wot.  plus firefox and palemoon.  and by far I am not the only one not getting updates.


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Re: Never 10
« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2016, 12:31:13 AM »
That's got to be it. There's just no way that it can be linked to the 3rd party software installed on people compters.    :uhoh

I'd like to know which third party programs might be involved in a fresh install performed from a plain vanilla Microsoft CD.

Oh, of course, the motherboard drivers, they were from Asus. Silly me.  :bolt:
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Re: Never 10
« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2016, 06:54:01 AM »
<snip>

Also, do you have any ETA on when my computer is suppose to break on me like you have stated before? I'd like to know beforehand and prepare for such an event.

I have no idea when you might repeat the circumstances which lead up to your problems with your previous operating system.


I get you have a personal problem with me.  If that is the basis for these posts, then private message me and lets work it out.  Imposing these misdirections on the community is not helping anyone.
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Re: Never 10
« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2016, 01:04:19 AM »
guys, there is a hotfix for the vanilla win7 sp1 not updating, that issue is characterized by a svchost using a full core while searching for the update

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Re: Never 10
« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2016, 02:14:13 AM »
Win7 post SP1 updates as one patch: http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/site/Search.aspx?q=3125574 . Note that you'll have to use Internet Explorer to be able to use the site.
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Re: Never 10
« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2016, 04:11:54 PM »
Win7 post SP1 updates as one patch: http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/site/Search.aspx?q=3125574 . Note that you'll have to use Internet Explorer to be able to use the site.

Am I correct in assuming this is for a fresh install and not for a computer that has just stopped getting updates for a month or two?
I have 3 win7 computers. My AH machine downloaded updates very quickly today. My wife's laptop has been searching for updates for 3 hours and found nothing. I haven't tried my laptop yet this week but it hasn't updated for a couple of months.
Meanwhile my one win 10 computer started the cumulative update, got to 45% quickly, and has been stuck at 45% for two hours. I guess the answer is to be patient. Maybe I should just get rid of a computer or two to minimize the frustration.  :bhead :bhead :bhead
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Re: Never 10
« Reply #25 on: September 14, 2016, 05:11:30 PM »
If your Win 10 cumulative update KB3189866 down load is stuck somewhere between 45% and 95% check this out.

http://www.infoworld.com/article/3120225/microsoft-windows/heres-how-to-install-balky-windows-10-cumulative-patch-kb-3189866.html

I had it installed within 15min. The only thing I don't like is that windows update still shows the download stuck at 45%. I hope that doesn't mean problems down the line.
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Re: Never 10
« Reply #26 on: September 15, 2016, 12:15:27 PM »
If your Win 10 cumulative update KB3189866 down load is stuck somewhere between 45% and 95% check this out.

http://www.infoworld.com/article/3120225/microsoft-windows/heres-how-to-install-balky-windows-10-cumulative-patch-kb-3189866.html

I had it installed within 15min. The only thing I don't like is that windows update still shows the download stuck at 45%. I hope that doesn't mean problems down the line.

I just did that today and was going to inform you people about it, but I couldn't remember the KB number. Thank you for putting it here.

There were some problems manually installing it. After asking about installing the ActiveX component in Internet Explorer nothing happened and as was said in the link Condor provided, it won't work with other browsers. Instead of fiddling with RSS feeds I found this site with direct links to the downloads: http://www.ghacks.net/2016/09/14/kb3189866-stuck-at-45-or-95-install-it-manually-instead/. A download of 10 minutes plus some more to install it, reboot and check for updates: Voilà! Your system is up to date, 40 € thank you.
Quote from: BaldEagl, applies to myself, too
I've got an older system by today's standards that still runs the game well by my standards.

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Re: Never 10
« Reply #27 on: September 15, 2016, 12:57:51 PM »
This morning the 45% download message was gone with an update error message and try again button. I hit the button, it checked for updates and found none. I now have KB3189866 without that leftover partial download message.
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Re: Never 10
« Reply #28 on: September 16, 2016, 05:48:09 AM »
Ahh microsoft update....manually checked for updates on my 8.1 pro x64 pc this morning, which is set to never check for updates, and it only took about 45 seconds to come back with a list of 17 updates. Then only another 3 minutes to download about 15 megs and install them. Yayyyy! This is my gaming pc.

However....My two win 7 pro x64 PCs, which were up to date, are set to automatically check for updates and let me choose which to download.

Well...one of them beat itself silly for about 6 hours (could tell because brought up resource monitor to watch the fun) to check for updates, then took about an hour to download them.

The other win 7 pc has been beating itself silly for a couple days now trying to check for updates and still isn't done.

Both win 7 PCs run at about 50% CPU duty cycle just for the update checks.
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