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Re: Planes flipping during agressive defensive moves
« Reply #270 on: September 29, 2016, 12:23:07 PM »
I have not seen yours did you post it in the bug forum?

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Re: Planes flipping during agressive defensive moves
« Reply #271 on: September 29, 2016, 12:26:27 PM »
So concepts of physics are not allowed here....got it.



Well FLS, tell me what the airspeed is supposed to be from a " departing controlled flight" aircraft and I'll test to that.  How does that sound?

That looks very much like AcesHigh updating the aircraft's position incorrectly. I would bet that the p51 pilot in reality rolled left and pushed the nose down causing one of those negative G rolls.
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Re: Planes flipping during agressive defensive moves
« Reply #272 on: September 29, 2016, 12:27:14 PM »
I am with Dolby.

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Re: Planes flipping during agressive defensive moves
« Reply #273 on: September 29, 2016, 12:36:24 PM »
Ask Skuzzy to look through the support email <S>

G--- thanks for all the help why didin't I think that . :rolleyes:

Skuzzy is on vacation hence why I asked you to post it.

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Re: Planes flipping during agressive defensive moves
« Reply #274 on: September 29, 2016, 12:50:13 PM »
G--- thanks for all the help why didin't I think that . :rolleyes:

Skuzzy is on vacation hence why I asked you to post it.

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I'm glad I could help.
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Re: Planes flipping during agressive defensive moves
« Reply #275 on: September 29, 2016, 12:53:40 PM »
G--- thanks for all the help why didin't I think that . :rolleyes:

Skuzzy is on vacation hence why I asked you to post it.

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Re: Planes flipping during agressive defensive moves
« Reply #276 on: September 29, 2016, 12:59:15 PM »
So far 19 pages and not one film of AH flight testing showing any problems.   :headscratch:

Should take about 5 minutes including posting the film.   :aok


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Re: Planes flipping during agressive defensive moves
« Reply #277 on: September 29, 2016, 01:04:46 PM »
Skyyr can't hide himself at all, his fly, antics, headhunting, shades is incomparable. Except with Fulcrum, he has had the ability to change names and set up numerous BBS account. I wonder if information has passed between these former squadmates  on how to hide ID from HTC.

Paranoid much, Dolby?  Come on dude....

Last time we exchanged emails, which isnt all that often, Skyyr claimed quite explicity he wasn't Starfox.  HTC has said the same.  Do I have my doubts?  Yes I do. Why? Because you are right...he flies like Skyyr.  I hope I'm wrong...because if I am not I'd be disappointed that he lied to me.

As Shida said, everything can be hidden if you really want it to be.

Yes it can, and I've highlighted the key phrase for you. My advice would be to keep it in mind when considering everything you posted about. 

Back to the OP topic, I will make sure to run AH film recordings going forward just in case I see similar issues again.   :salute



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Re: Planes flipping during agressive defensive moves
« Reply #278 on: September 29, 2016, 01:21:43 PM »
240mph 400' entry

200mph 500ish exit

Pissed away 40mph and gained alt...for a plane that just had its nose--straight, 90 degree out from velocity vector, and then 60' nose low thats pretty impressive.

See image here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-kwhapBgCtYTl8tTjdXX1JubHc/view?usp=sharing

Pictures taken from AH film...external, fixed point of reference.

See AH film here.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-kwhapBgCtYSVZNMkY2UzZDSlE/view?usp=sharing

External fixed point of reference works pretty good to see the funky chicken maneuver.




I can't make attachments for some reason on this thread so used links.
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Re: Planes flipping during agressive defensive moves
« Reply #279 on: September 29, 2016, 01:32:26 PM »
You zoomed up to 628 ft and dropped to 439. You dropped 190 ft. Your speed went from 242 to 174mph. You lost 68 mph, over 25% of your speed.  And you had an unintentional heading change. From one snap roll. So what's the problem?

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Re: Planes flipping during agressive defensive moves
« Reply #280 on: September 29, 2016, 01:52:32 PM »
240mph 400' entry

200mph 500ish exit

Pissed away 40mph and gained alt...for a plane that just had its nose--straight, 90 degree out from velocity vector, and then 60' nose low thats pretty impressive.

See image here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-kwhapBgCtYTl8tTjdXX1JubHc/view?usp=sharing

Pictures taken from AH film...external, fixed point of reference.

See AH film here.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-kwhapBgCtYSVZNMkY2UzZDSlE/view?usp=sharing

External fixed point of reference works pretty good to see the funky chicken maneuver.

I can't make attachments for some reason on this thread so used links.

Cool Dobs! You can attach films to posts in the Films and Screenshots forum.
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Re: Planes flipping during agressive defensive moves
« Reply #281 on: September 29, 2016, 02:13:06 PM »
You zoomed up to 628 ft and dropped to 439. You dropped 190 ft. Your speed went from 242 to 174mph. You lost 68 mph, over 25% of your speed.  And you had an unintentional heading change. From one snap roll. So what's the problem?

The starting altitude was 400ish, the ending altitude was 400ish...the "zoom" portion was doing the 90 nose high to 90 out from velocity vector to 60 nose low....most of which was planform to the wind.

Obviously in your world no problem...

Carry on...nothing to see here..FLS has said this is normal flight behavior. :bhead
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Re: Planes flipping during agressive defensive moves
« Reply #282 on: September 29, 2016, 02:16:25 PM »
Because P-38.   :D    You want a single engine aircraft for snap roll tricks.   The P-38 likes dual throttle flat spin tricks.  :aok

It does that too!  But then you end up as a giant floating target...lol  Hence Hal, the P-38 Deer...

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Re: Planes flipping during agressive defensive moves
« Reply #283 on: September 29, 2016, 02:20:30 PM »
Hitech, do you want films posted in the forum, or emailed to you guys?

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Re: Planes flipping during agressive defensive moves
« Reply #284 on: September 29, 2016, 02:30:54 PM »
The starting altitude was 400ish, the ending altitude was 400ish...the "zoom" portion was doing the 90 nose high to 90 out from velocity vector to 60 nose low....most of which was planform to the wind.

Obviously in your world no problem...

Carry on...nothing to see here..FLS has said this is normal flight behavior. :bhead


What do you see in the film that's wrong?