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[Oldman731]

Sure you can. Just remember, the one who dies is the winner.

He means that killshooter will kill the winner of the fight.  AvA isn't the same as an MA, and it never was.  But it does let you see what a two-sided war looks like.

- olmdan

[DmonSlyr]

AvA is a great place! Once they build some special maps and there are 5 people or more on during primetime every night. It will be an even more fun arena!! The fights are ALWAYS a blast in the AvA, and it's more intense with no icons!

2 side arenas only work with very small maps with very small #s. 30 max players and a map that's no bigger than 4 sectors. That's what I hope can happen in the AvA to bring more players into the arena with quick easy to find action.

I think the 3 side arena in the MA is the better option because it really does work against side stacking and even bigger hoards to win maps. It also presents opportunities to fight against other people on another side of the map. Changing the arena to a 2 side arena wouldn't change anything for the better. The more realistic option is to make the maps better suited for action by pushing bases a little closer together and limiting mountains. This makes it so people don't have to fly alt monkey BnZ planes all the time to be on par with the action.

[captain1ma]

for the record, the AVA has no ENEMY icons, not no icons. we have friendly icons on. people who fly the AVA regularly tend to be better MA players.

[Dawger]

I love AvA, however, a 2-sided MA would expedite the demise of AH.

[Vraciu]

He means that killshooter will kill the winner of the fight. 


AvA isn't the same as an MA, and it never was.

Agreed.

But it does let you see what a two-sided war looks like.

- olmdan

Disagree.   Apples to oranges.   The differences are not conducive to making two sides fun/popular.

[Vraciu]

I love AvA, however, a 2-sided MA would expedite the demise of AH.

Two sides was the funnest thing about WBs (other than RPS, which I also really enjoyed). 

Three sides is a stagnant snooze fest.  Actually, three sides really is two sides--most days it's just 2 vs 1 instead of 1 vs 1. 

[Shuffler]

I love the AVA. Have not had time to fly much but I love it just the same.

[captain1ma]

we tried 2 sided once, with all planes enabled on both sides........... no one showed up.

<edit> besides with the exception of last Monday, we turn on all the same planes for both sides for Monday night madness. you should try it sometime.

and its not apples and oranges. we promote base capture whenever possible.

[Vraciu]

Apples and oranges. 

A two-sided AVA is NOT the same thing as a two-sided Open Melee/MA. 

[captain1ma]

agree to disagree, merry Christmas!

[Shuffler]

Apples and oranges. 

A two-sided AVA is NOT the same thing as a two-sided Open Melee/MA.

No... one is called AVA and the other is called Open Melee. Monday Night Madness is sheer madness at it's best.

Open Melee will have three sides as it has been tested and deemed the best possible setup.

[Vraciu]

agree to disagree, merry Christmas!

I will go with the Merry Christmas part any way.

[Shuffler]

I will go with the Merry Christmas part any way.

  you disagree to disagree?   

[The Fugitive]

Apples and oranges. 

A two-sided AVA is NOT the same thing as a two-sided Open Melee/MA.

Explain WHY you say this, other wise your just spewing rubbish. I don't see why it would be so different.

[Vraciu]

Explain WHY you say this, other wise your just spewing rubbish. I don't see why it would be so different.

How obvious does it have to be?

See my prior question.   The answer is readily apparent in the name of the arena ALONE.