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« Reply #60 on: April 19, 2017, 06:40:29 AM »
What is the alternative to a moose in the UK :old:
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« Reply #61 on: April 19, 2017, 08:04:34 AM »
You have a point Biz, if this is carried to the extreme, but frankly these same concerns about survival preparations have been around for 50 years since the days of the cold war, and as far as I know there has not been excessive demand for rice, beans, or any other commodity as a result. At least not enough to affect the market in any way.
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« Reply #62 on: April 19, 2017, 08:11:41 AM »
If some catastrophe were to occur, I will subsist on the over abundance of long pig until such time as their excess population were to become diminished.


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« Reply #63 on: April 19, 2017, 08:53:15 AM »
I guess you can never be to safe. However, I don't believe we will have WW3 anytime soon.
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« Reply #64 on: April 19, 2017, 08:54:30 AM »
What is the alternative to a moose in the UK :old:

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« Reply #65 on: April 19, 2017, 09:19:59 AM »
You can be prepared for catastrophe or most likely die. Forget handouts.
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« Reply #66 on: April 19, 2017, 09:56:10 AM »
Thanks for the replys Men ... I know back in 1994 we got hit with a ice storm and knock the power out for 2 weeks here . It was like I was liviing 100 years ago . The stores could not pump gas even if you could get to one . After this happen I made it a point to have anouth stuff to last me a month at lest . Would like to build a bunker one day . You never no what's going to haappen and it well one day .. Again thanks for the replys <S>
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« Reply #69 on: April 19, 2017, 05:08:22 PM »
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« Reply #70 on: April 19, 2017, 07:08:29 PM »
Brooke, I fully understand that logic and for a single individual there really is no measurable difference.

But think about it in a nationwide scale: What if for some reason such preparations became mainstream all of a sudden?

That hasn't happened and isn't going to happen, but going down that line of reasoning leads, then, to what if there were a nationwide emergency during which people did need those buckets of rice and beans but didn't have them?  Well, then you'd have $trillions in economic damages that could have been avoided as a tradeoff of having avoided a buying spree on cheap rice and beans.

It is bad reasoning to pick one unlikely thing to make a case while ignoring the other unlikely thing that leads to the opposite conclusion.

Let's remember what we're talking about here.  Is it wise to have some emergency food or not?  If yes, then one of the cheapest, best, easiest, least-wasteful, most-economical ways to do it is with a bucket of rice and beans.

All this other arguing is just as applicable to anything a person does or buys.  What if everyone in the world did or bought that thing?  There would be disruption, chaos, riots in the streets, people murdering each other to get X.  This is not a useful line of reasoning.

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« Reply #71 on: April 19, 2017, 07:18:25 PM »
Amateurs!

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« Reply #72 on: April 20, 2017, 12:28:11 AM »
Is that meat in a tin? :)
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« Reply #73 on: April 20, 2017, 02:28:26 AM »
Let's remember what we're talking about here.  Is it wise to have some emergency food or not?
I vote for yes.

During this post I've learned that an emergency doesn't have to be a nationwide apocalypse to break the normal supply services for weeks, at least not in the US. Guess we live in a much more safe and stable place here, no hurricanes, earthquakes, floods, thunder storms, tsunamis, volcanic activity... There's no need for us to pack food into extra durable packages, a tight jar would be enough to keep dry ingredients dry and pest free. Take this as an apology, I clearly wasn't thinking about the conditions over there.

Every now and then there's a short piece of news in the morning paper telling that there's a power outage in the dense populated areas, fixed in two weeks at the max. Should such happen to me in the summertime, the biggest issue would be eating the contents of the fridge before they melt. I suppose that's the situation with most of the neigbourhood here.

When the Ministry of the Interior published their National Risk Assessment in 2015, I recall the experts saying that the crucial backup services for the society would be up and running in a couple of days. The main issue for us would be water, but even that would be no big problem, there's a river within less than a mile and the water is drinkable at least when cooked.

As for a useful line of reasoning, didn't the US Army include zombie attacks in their risk assessment? Some of the American preppers I've heard/read about sound like they're preparing for something like the Siege of Leningrad or worse, a scenario that seems very unlikely in the USA.
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Re: WW lll
« Reply #74 on: April 20, 2017, 09:46:51 AM »
Thanks for the replys Men ... I know back in 1994 we got hit with a ice storm and knock the power out for 2 weeks here . It was like I was liviing 100 years ago . The stores could not pump gas even if you could get to one . After this happen I made it a point to have anouth stuff to last me a month at lest . Would like to build a bunker one day . You never no what's going to haappen and it well one day .. Again thanks for the replys <S>

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