Simulated Aerial Combat Roundtable

[Tumor]

Virple Constellation

It handles way better than the old Warthog... but I really miss the 2nd 4-way thumb button.

[AKIron]

I have a Constellation Alpha stick and a Warthog HOTAS set. You can set the mini analog stick on the Virpil to provide digital button presses at the 4 edges making it work like a digital hat.

[AKIron]

I've had the Virpil for a bit over a year now but only recently realized the bottom "lever" is an analog axis and not just a switch like on the Warthog. Works great for wheel brakes.

[AKIron]

I use the Virpil table mount clamp and a 4" extender. The extra leverage of that makes the stick very easy to move. I had to tighten the axes springs so I could feel the center. The Warthog is a good stick but I could never go back. All of the Virpil "hats" have a depress button. The trigger has a "guard" which has 2 button function like the trigger itself. Overall I think the Virpil stick has close to twice as many "buttons" and of course the additional 2 axis mini stick.

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Not twice. The Warthog stick has 19. The Virpil 31.

[Tumor]

I have a Constellation Alpha stick and a Warthog HOTAS set. You can set the mini analog stick on the Virpil to provide digital button presses at the 4 edges making it work like a digital hat.

How?  In the Virp software?

[AKIron]

How?  In the Virp software?

Yes. Also, it can perform both functions, axes and buttons. Lemme look at the software and I can tell you how.

Videos already on the function so here's one:

[Tumor]

I figured it out.  Thanks... that'll help.    Won't help any with the muscle memory part but, I might eventually get over it.

[AKIron]

I don't use them anymore but when I did I found you want to set the button for the extremes, like 90-100 on each. Otherwise it's too easy to trigger the wrong button. For example, I have all four directions mapped for buttons like a hat. If I have the axis mapped starting at a low value and I want to trigger the up button but move the axis a little left or right while pushing up it will trigger left or right also. If I use the extremes it won't trigger unintentional motions. Works well like that.

[AKIron]

I know what you mean about the muscle memory. I've had to relearn that anyhow because the relative positions of the similar hats are different from the Warthog stick.

[AKIron]

Did you know the little roller on the stick also has left, right, and depress buttons? I've found it difficult to get a solid feel for the difference between going right and down though.

Just checked. Looks like I was wrong on that. Left, Right, and pressing down just activates both left and right. Not really useful for down then. Why I had trouble before I guess.

[AKIron]

I never really used it because it seemed clunky. After playing with it some more just now depressing actually works like a two stage trigger. It seems to work reliably like this. I'm gonna find a use for it.

Sometimes I really should just rtfm

Here, have another air refueling video

[Tumor]

Did you know the little roller on the stick also has left, right, and depress buttons? I've found it difficult to get a solid feel for the difference between going right and down though.

Just checked. Looks like I was wrong on that. Left, Right, and pressing down just activates both left and right. Not really useful for down then. Why I had trouble before I guess.

Ya, but it does have 2 depress buttons (2 clicks down)

[AKIron]

Ya, but it does have 2 depress buttons (2 clicks down)

If you move it to the left it will click the first. If you move it to the right you can click the second without clicking the first but it's difficult to do. I assumed it was a poor design. Now I think it was intended to be used as a two stage like the trigger.

[AKIron]

[AKIron]

New Thrustmaster product reveal later today.

https://www.thrustmaster.com/discord-reveal/

Guess it's already revealed.

https://www.thrustmaster.com/products/ava-base/