Already 5 votes....

[Animl-AW]

In AW you DID know who you killed, but it wasnt broadcast that you had killed so and so. the only message was "A kill has been recorded by Fugitive" but it didnt say who you killed. Made it much harder to track a guy across the map.

So with the old radar system you had the line of sight as long as the dar was up. Dot dar was better because you didnt know if you were chasing a buff or a fighter, again "fog of war".

Make radar important again, right now it doesnt matter if its up or down, as long as you have a guy in the space the cons are lit. Goons could hide again landing outside towns or halfway there. With awac system landed or not, just fly in the same half of the sector and you can spot him.

Bump up the total pounds to take out radar to make it a bit tougher to take out, at least a second pass. Make it a target, that makes it something worth defending and give you the time TO defend it. Put some game back into the game.

I prefer Dot Dar myself. Pretty sure RL dar in that era could tell bigger planes or formations from small planes, could be totally wrong on that.

But ya, I liked Dot Dar more better.

[LilMak]

Exactly.

And imagine what the more unskilled squads will do. You think the BTs and Checkertails are bad now? Wait until they're unsure of what they'll run into. Kill one of them and they'll all run.

Just saying.

They were here and pusses before dar was puss mode. Nothing new. Just harder for them to gang rape without the crutches.

[1ijac]

I think the dar is fine the way it is.

One-eye

[Eagler]

We need Pearl Harbor dar..

Where are contact could be a flock of birds, flight of B-17's or the entire Japanese Navy Air Force...

An alt estimate, give or take a thousand or 2, when you hovered over it would be more accurate imo

Eagler

[LCADolby]

Just make all enemies dots

[Max]

I think the dar is fine the way it is.

One-eye

Others may disagree 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE17BAfekuQ

[Devil 505]

Of all the problems with the MA, this is such small potatoes.

If you hate the way the MA is, it will still suck even with the old dot dar.

[Oldman731]

Others may disagree 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE17BAfekuQ

Timeless, isn't it?

- oldman

[whiteman]

Of all the problems with the MA, this is such small potatoes.

If you hate the way the MA is, it will still suck even with the old dot dar.

Yep, as much as I dislike the neutering of good SA, the new dot dar is a necessary evil.

[LilMak]

Of all the problems with the MA, this is such small potatoes.

If you hate the way the MA is, it will still suck even with the old dot dar.

Never hated the MA. I do hate that awacs has ruined SA. There is literally a dimension of the game that’s be ruined because of the radar settings.

[LilMak]

Yep, as much as I dislike the neutering of good SA, the new dot dar is a necessary evil.

No it’s not. It’s a crutch for lazy players.

[mERv]

Huge fan of threads like these so please dont take my opinion the wrong way <S>

Wouldnt this require a complete revamp of the game itself via new coad?

Pretty sure Dale is done outside of making VR better. We got to respect that at some point. Mans paid his dues.

I think this is a great idea IF we had the logisitcal infrastructure to pull this off as a community through crowd sourcing.

I am -1

I would love nothing more than to have my two large bomber icons change to two small dots. The effect it has on "average" or even new players is debilitating and will compromise their ability to play, perform, and enjoy the game.

[Animl-AW]

Of all the problems with the MA, this is such small potatoes.

If you hate the way the MA is, it will still suck even with the old dot dar.

I don’t see a lot of technical issues with the MA, but you make a valid point.

I’ve never experienced a content sim population.

I wish many would get off the sideline bench waiting for numbers to come up and get in the game and be a part of the numbers coming up. Numbers breed numbers.

Obviously sitting out because of one person is a bit of a cop-out and hands them success with little effort spent. I’m of the never run, go in face first and beat them down tribe. They are doing to you what would bother them the most. Its a white flag surrender. Flip the table, play by their rules. Squelching them kills half their strategy, making sure you’re angry. As soon as I log on, I check the roster, squelch, and start my engine. Nothing hurts an attention monger more than depriving them of attention. Someone targeting you? Alternate the path you use. Don’t give them patterns to rely on, they have patterns (tells) too.

As far as dar, I like dot dar, but the current isn’t enough to make me quit in protest that yields no results. When the game dies you’ll regret wasted time. I regret the 14 yr hiatus.

[LilMak]

Huge fan of threads like these so please dont take my opinion the wrong way <S>

Wouldnt this require a complete revamp of the game itself via new coad?

I don’t see how an arena setting would require new code. Even if it did require some code, I’m sure the old code is sitting in the wings ready to be plugged back in.

[DmonSlyr]

Huge fan of threads like these so please dont take my opinion the wrong way <S>

Wouldnt this require a complete revamp of the game itself via new coad?

Pretty sure Dale is done outside of making VR better. We got to respect that at some point. Mans paid his dues.

I think this is a great idea IF we had the logisitcal infrastructure to pull this off as a community through crowd sourcing.

I am -1

I would love nothing more than to have my two large bomber icons change to two small dots. The effect it has on "average" or even new players is debilitating and will compromise their ability to play, perform, and enjoy the game.

Any chance Noobs have is being wiped away by vets using the same planes and tactics against noobs. Good sticks in the easy mode "noob" planes, don't give noobs in easy mode noob planes a chance because their plane isn't any more capable than a vets plane but the vet knows exactly what to do in the more capable plane to defeat the noob.

A noob does finally get a kill, and now they show on the kill messages with their dot on the map to easily identify and go after, leaving them even less of a chance since they don't know whose coming after them.


I think a lot of you aren't getting it.

How is it fair for a player who just got a kill to have their position completely given away, while the enemy going after them gets full mask to be unidentified?  Thus allowing them to set up an attack against the person who just got a kill?

If I know Lazer is in a P38 after he just got a kill. I'm now going to manipulate my tactics to prepare to fight Lazer in a way that gives me an advantage, where as he has no clue it's me to be able to set up advantage for himself, or atleast be aware to fly more aggressively.

Does that make sense?