What would get AH growing again

[CAV]

Looked interesting until I saw this: "The game's physically accurate flight and damage models derived from the popular War Thunder military action game ensure high level of realism."

WT in SIM mode in many ways is pretty good.

CAV

[JimmyD3]

There is nothing in the game "derived" from War Thunder, period. If any thing, War Thunder used the Aces High material. 

[save]

War Thunder beta tester team had a few old AH players I know of.

[AKIron]

There is nothing in the game "derived" from War Thunder, period. If any thing, War Thunder used the Aces High material. 

What I quoted is from the developer comments on steam.

[AKIron]

WT in SIM mode in many ways is pretty good.

CAV

How does it compare to IL-2 and DCS?

[AKIron]

There are basically 2 metrics for a simulation imo. How closely the aircraft is modeled to its real life counterpart in functionality and the physics of the world in which it flies. The latter is more important imo but the former won't be ignored.

Of course a separation between an aircraft and the environment in which it exists may or may not be an illusion. It's likely that every simulation of flight today is melded in that the aircraft modeled controls at least some of its environment with its coding. That's my opinion. Prove me wrong.

[CAV]

How does it compare to IL-2 and DCS?

Never tried DCS,but  WW2OL, IL-2, & WT SIM mode all give me a better immersion/Illusion that I am participating in air combat during World War II. Overall I think all the Sims do a reasonable job of the basic flight characteristics. Other Sims Victory or death sometimes comes down to the player/Pilot ability to manage the aircraft......

 Flying along in your P-51 with drop tanks on...
And suddenly you see bad guys, Looking out of the canopy at your drop tanks, Keyboard and joystick and throttle.......
 Thinking to yourself what the $%^& was the procedure to drop the tanks again...

 Why is my motor running so rough and so hot ? ... What plane am I flying where's that radiator lever at? 

When I think of what is a good simulation... It's the one that puts me in the same situations that our father's & grandfathers face during World War II. It was always the immersion, that is why I always like scenarios in Air Warrior or here in Aces High,  it was the immersion.
Sadly most nights here in AH has just turned into Fight Club with airplanes. I would like to believe there is still hope for Aces High but I think it would take a massive overhaul how we play the game-gameplay wise. And a lot of serious rewriting of code and I don't think we'll ever see happen.

CAV

[Yarbles]

. It was always the immersion, that is why I always like scenarios in Air Warrior or here in Aces High,  it was the immersion.

 Very good points you make 

In AH for some reason, I have huge confidence in the flight model. It corresponds to what I expect. Do you agree having compared it to others ?

I also would not want to sound like a paid advocate for AH but is there mixture of ground and air war to be found anywhere else than in AH without Ai ?

I personally would prefer an arena like AH axis v allies but not shootng at static models of fighting AI. I have flown DCS in Normandy but real fights were few and far between. DCS is also hugely demanding on a PC.

[Yarbles]

Maybe it just needs one of those tubes with a pump at the end but I am not sure if they actually work. Has anyone tried one and if so can they recommend a brand 

[AKIron]

 Very good points you make 

In AH for some reason, I have huge confidence in the flight model. It corresponds to what I expect. Do you agree having compared it to others ?

I also would not want to sound like a paid advocate for AH but is there mixture of ground and air war to be found anywhere else than in AH without Ai ?

I personally would prefer an arena like AH axis v allies but not shootng at static models of fighting AI. I have flown DCS in Normandy but real fights were few and far between. DCS is also hugely demanding on a PC.

Fighting AI is drama free. If this board is a reflection on the in game drama these days no thanks.

[Banshee7]

If this board is a reflection on the in game drama these days no thanks.

It is.  I haven't flown in about 2 months, and I am upset that I don't miss it anymore than I do. 

[Yarbles]

Fighting AI is drama free. If this board is a reflection on the in game drama these days no thanks.

Like no drama compared to how I remember. Back in the day people were arranging to have it out on the mic at random locations in MC ing comps to decide the fight bringing their own PA systems 

To be fair in those days MC ing it off on the mic was how everything was decided and it was brutal   

Some fellas never came back from those days and we miss them 

Some people got very angry and we are better now 
We had some young fellas squaring off and the forumn would run to 100 pages. WHO WHAT WHEN WHATEVER. THE real war was here on the forumn and people who had not logged in for years were in the thick of it. I personally know of felllas who were advised on mental health grounds to take a brake from AH. It was just too hot to live with and they had to step back 


I think the Flame forumn war was the peak. I dont know what it was about but I am a survivor     

[icepac]

In warbirds, you could attach as a gunner to any AI planes on your country.

[Animl-AW]

Big drama on 200 was basically a few people harassing many, including myself. With them gone its a lot more inviting. However a few did a lot of damage.

Shane is Shane, he might go overboard from time to time, but personally I lol at his creativeness. I’m used to him since AW so it may not bother me as much as some.

Taunting is competitive nature that has always been, even before AH. The art of it is knowing which lines not to cross.

[Animl-AW]

It is.  I haven't flown in about 2 months, and I am upset that I don't miss it anymore than I do.

Your buddies went way way over the line, what was done had to be done.

You are well liked in AH, good people. Don’t mix the two up.

Hope you reconsider