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Offline Saintaw

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« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2002, 11:26:54 AM »
lol Deja :D
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« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2002, 11:54:26 AM »
Since when did the Yak become a dweeb plane? Oh... since one shot Mandoble down? Ok that makes sense now ;)

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« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2002, 12:16:22 PM »
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Originally posted by Gremlin
Self confessed dweeb here, (flys all the dweeb planes as well as the 'non dweeb' ones but trys not to HO, ram, and certainly doesnt take up a buff with the sole intention of gunning down fiters)

Whats worse than the dweeb tactics Mandoble mentions is the luftwhiners who climb to 30k in a luftwobbler make one attempt to HO you and then immediately dive for the deck cause they haven't the skill to reverse properly and even if they did they wouldnt know where to begin with ACM.  Im not talking about the good guys (like mandoble) who at least carry through the attack and only run when things go pear shaped.  Running is good.  Only a dweeb stays to fight a battle he cant win.

The other thing wich sucks is the guy who chases you for 20miles just because he knows you gotta problem (missing wingtip, smokin engine etc)  if you had both wings and a chance to fight back they'd run for miles to get away)

Gangbangin, your haveing a nice 1v1 with some1 and you see 5 spits comin in fast.  They killshooter themselves to get to ya, but inevitibly you buy it in the blizzard of 50 cals. You know what they say, 'Give enough monkeys' guns.  So next time ya see a pony being engaged by 2 friendlies leave em alone, they don't need your help, find your own fight.  All your doing is showing yourself up as a skilless dweeb who needs to hang onto other peoples coattails.

Last but by no means least, the spit who follows you around for 30 minutes waiting for you to attack someone so he can sneak up behind ya and get his cheap kill.  When this happens i always rev and at least try nail the dweeb.  THis is one time I have no problem with HO.  AT least if you gotta go down your gonna take this dweeb with ya and of course its much nicer when it works out and you emerge without a scratch.  


Good post Gremlin.

I hate HOs, and have no respect for those who practice it. Remember, I'm not talking about a head to head merge. That's totally different in purpose and intent. Most of the HO artists expect that their target will bear off. I no longer bother. If we collide, so be it.

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« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2002, 05:11:52 PM »
Little puzzeled here - why is the Yak 9U a dweeb plane?  No newbies fly it - doesnt turn as well as Spits, not as fast as La7, and has the weakest guns in the game... I think most people hate the thing because they dont know what its capable of.  :P  Now stop talking about the damned plane so I can keep surprising people with it!

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« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2002, 06:15:30 PM »
Yak 9U has the weakest guns in the game?! Not gonna fly that puppy any more. Switching to the 202 so I'll have some real turbo lazers!:D

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« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2002, 07:27:28 PM »
I fact I would say Yak9U is just the dweebiest one.
And if that gun is weak, try a 151/20 ...
Yak9U eats Spits and La7s for freakfast, lauch and dinner, and never looses WEP (maximum advantage over any plane except 262).

In any case that is my dweeb rides list, u may have yours and just kill the chutes of their pilots :D

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« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2002, 08:02:18 PM »
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Little puzzeled here - why is the Yak 9U a dweeb plane?


Well Saurdukar, I'm not sure either, I was a bit suprised at that remark myself! :)

But the YAK9U was designed to be a 109/190 killer, and if it wasn't, well it in fact IS :)

Darn sweet ride, fast, slippery, forgiving, but you have to get in close and personal to do any damage with the guns.  Not enough ammoo for spray and pray.  Be darned if I can seem to come home with more than 2 scalps per sortie do to the amooo load.  Not enough ammooo to waste on low percentage HO shots, and with only 1 20 mm gun not too effective on HOs for poorer shots like myself even if you did take it.

Lets see, maybe because it is used so much by newbies??

The stats show for this tour so far

The Yak-9U has 3269 kills and has been killed 2726 times.

Other non-dweeb planes:

The Fw 190D-9 has 5330 kills and has been killed 3641 times.
The Fw 190A-5 has 2283 kills and has been killed 1712 times.
The Bf 109G-10 has 5220 kills and has been killed 4013 times.

How does it stack up in the MA against the non-dweeb planes?

The Yak-9U has 88 kills and has been killed 94 times against the Bf 109G-10.

The Yak-9U has 59 kills and has been killed 50 times against the Fw 190A-8.

The Yak-9U has 69 kills and has been killed 74 times against the Fw 190D-9.

This is out of a total of 185,000 total kills for all vehicle and planes so far this tour.  Nope doesn't seem to be a dominant ride.


Well, maybe it is a dweeb plane, it is fast, hard for a Dora or G10 to kill, even though the stats put the Dora and the G10 ahead.

The YAK9U a dweeb plane????  Man somebody is fishing, and I took the bait!  LOL! :D

Your mileage may vary...

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« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2002, 08:07:37 PM »
All chutes die.  I don't care what you were in to begin with, be it a Spit or a Dora, with God as my witness I will strafe your bailing pansy-ass if at all possible.

All it takes is one .303 to kill a bailer.  In my mind, that means I've got enough ammo in the Spit V to take down 1400 of 'em if need be.  So is it a waste of ammo to strafe chutes?  I can take down two or three planes with .303, or I can take down 1400 chutes.  It seems more wasteful to spend those bullets on planes instead of people.  :D

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« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2002, 08:33:54 PM »
Any plane that is not an easy kill for him, is a dweeb plane.
And since he sucks, most planes are dweeby.

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« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2002, 08:34:11 PM »
yak? a dweeb plane? no way.

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« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2002, 09:12:12 PM »
Any plane I'm in is a dweeb plane............

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« Reply #26 on: February 19, 2002, 11:44:37 PM »
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yak? a dweeb plane? no way.


I agree. Unless you are one hell of a marksman, you really need to bore in close to get more than one or two kills per sortie with the 9U.

Tonight, I tried my hand with the Yak-9T. I suppose that I could say I was successful, going 7/1 (K/D), and the one loss was due to a gangbang by a six or seven Knits. Nonetheless, that monster 37mm gun is a one-shot pinger. Using just 27 cannon rounds and a pocket full of MG ammo, I brought down two B-26s and a Spitfire Mk.IX. A flying artillery piece is what this thing is. A single cannon round blew off the Spit's wing. However, with only 32 cannon rounds, accurate shooting is a must.

I also gave the Hurricane IIC a try tonight as well. Armed with 4 Hiszookas (tm Leviathn) , it's a deadly, if bog-slow fighter. I operated the Hurri from a field being heavily vulched. So, I lost two of them just trying to get off the runway. However, the two times actually I got airborne were fun sorties. Two Spits, a Mustang, an La-7, one Mossy and a Yak-9U all fell victim to those nasty cannons.

Initially, I loaded two 1,000 lbs bombs, but switched fields before taking off. I forgot that they had been selected, and took off from the vulched field with them under the wings. However, I had forgotten that they were there. So, with that extra load and drag, I killed a SpitV and an La-7 in a tight little furball, all the while wondering why the Hurri was so sluggish and prone to mushing. Immediately afterwards, another Rook says, "hey Widewing, do you always dogfight with big bombs under the wings?" "Yeah", I replied, "it's only fair that I fly with a handicap." :cool:

Anyway, impressed with my own stupidity and good luck, I flew away from the field and jettisoned the bombs.:rolleyes:

Later, I was successful in getting off the runway again, and still did well, albeit against a bigger crowd of Knits. Finally, I accepted a head-on with a Mossy. We killed each other.

Anyway, it's a hoot to fly the decidedly non-dweeb fighters.

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« Reply #27 on: February 20, 2002, 12:11:27 AM »
"mandoble has 6 kills and has been killed 3 times against the Yak-9U"

I don't really see enough experience here vs the Yak9U to qualify Mandoble as the Yak dweeb judge. BTW, I was one of the 3 Yak's  that killed him. :D
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« Reply #28 on: February 20, 2002, 01:46:31 AM »
The Yak9UT would be a perfect dweeb plane but we don't have any yet ...

I'm still waiting :)

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« Reply #29 on: February 20, 2002, 01:48:51 AM »
PERK LA7 and Yak9-U!!!!:mad:

Part of my stats:

8 Kills of N1K2
3 Deaths by N1K2

12 Kills of P-51D
2 Deaths by P-51D

39 Kills of Spitfire Mk IX
13 Deaths by Spitfire Mk IX

7 Kills of SpitV
5 Deaths by SpitV

1 Kills of Yak-9T
0 Deaths by Yak-9T

9 Kills of Typhoon IB
3 Deaths by Typhoon IB

1 Kills of Yak-9U
2 Deaths by Yak-9U

1 Kills of La-7
5 Deaths by La-7

1 Kills of La-5FN
1 Deaths by La-5FN

12 Kills of P-38L
3 Deaths by P-38L

3 Kills of Fw 190D-9
2 Deaths by Fw 190D-9

4 Kills of Bf 109G-10
1 Deaths by Bf 109G-10

hmmm seems that Im still a spitdweeb...:D
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