Author Topic: Arafat`s speech...this might be it (Read 525 times)

~Caligula~ · « **on:** May 15, 2002, 08:46:22 AM »

Ha`aretz

It looks like this time he actually learnt something.
I hope he really means what he says,and has the power to do as well.
Israel can`t reject such deal.It`s allmost too good to be true.

SHALOM

Udie · « **Reply #1 on:** May 15, 2002, 08:54:42 AM »

Well the proof is in the pudding. He's said all this before, why should we believe him now? Time will tell I guess.....

~Caligula~ · « **Reply #2 on:** May 15, 2002, 09:05:02 AM »

True,but I still have hope.
If he fails this time,nobody will ever talk to him anymore.
The IDF will go back in,slay some more terrorists and civilians that terrorists hide behind,and adventually they`ll have to give up.
It can`t go on forever.

Daff · « **Reply #3 on:** May 15, 2002, 09:27:09 AM »

It's all rather irrelevant with Likud saying that there will never be a Palestinian state.

Daff

Staga · « **Reply #4 on:** May 15, 2002, 10:57:43 AM »

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Originally posted by ~Caligula~
True,but I still have hope.
If he fails this time,nobody will ever talk to him anymore.
The IDF will go back in,slay some more terrorists and civilians that terrorists hide behind,and adventually they`ll have to give up.
It can`t go on forever.

It's been going on for decades already without Palestinians giving up. IMHO that crise could last 'till the end of the world if Israel and Palestinians aren't able to find a way to live together.

Now it looks like Arafat is willing to start negotiations with Israel and the Sharon has the ball now. Let's see if he kicks it to the crowd or will he pass it back to Arafat.

fd ski · « **Reply #5 on:** May 15, 2002, 11:15:10 AM »

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A8275-2002May12.html

... and just when you thought it couldn't be worst then Sharon...

Sikboy · « **Reply #6 on:** May 15, 2002, 11:18:57 AM »

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Originally posted by fd ski
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A8275-2002May12.html

... and just when you thought it couldn't be worst then Sharon...

For what it's worth, that happend before Arafat's Speech.

-Sikboy

Udie · « **Reply #7 on:** May 15, 2002, 11:52:36 AM »

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Originally posted by Staga

Now it looks like Arafat is willing to start negotiations with Israel and the Sharon has the ball now. Let's see if he kicks it to the crowd or will he pass it back to Arafat.

So how many times does this make? Why should anybody believe him? He's stalling for more time to rebuild his terrorist infrastructure, period. Same tactic he's always used, which is the same tactic that Saddam uses......

Dowding · « **Reply #8 on:** May 15, 2002, 12:14:35 PM »

Udie - didn't you anything Daff or Fd-ski wrote?

Let me summarise:

Sharon's party, Lekud, will NEVER recognise a Palestinian state.

So how do you reckon he can negociate a peace deal with the Palestinians if his position is so immovable?

Also, the latest intelligence reports state that Saddam is not involved in terrorism.

Staga · « **Reply #9 on:** May 15, 2002, 12:36:21 PM »

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Originally posted by Dowding

Also, the latest intelligence reports state that Saddam is not involved in terrorism.

Is there more info about this somewhere ?

Sikboy · « **Reply #10 on:** May 15, 2002, 12:48:35 PM »

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Originally posted by Dowding

Also, the latest intelligence reports state that Saddam is not involved in terrorism.

Are you refering to the recent evidence (or really lack therof) that Iraq had nothing to do with the Sept. 11th attacks (the alleged meeting between Atta and Iraqi Intel) or is there something else involved here?

-Sikboy

Tac · « **Reply #11 on:** May 15, 2002, 01:03:43 PM »

its all roadkill. Arafat has no real power, he's just a figurehead. He only has power as long as the cameras are pointed at him.

He cant stop any terrorrist attacks, nor does he have any kind of credibility left.

If arafat dies things would be much better..the next "leader" would have a fresh start and THEN there might be a chance at peace.

miko2d · « **Reply #12 on:** May 15, 2002, 03:28:13 PM »

Many israelis believe that palestinians fight not to have their own state but to destroy Israel. In view of that allowing them to have their own army would be a bad error on israeli's part.

If a generation passed without hostilities, nobody in Israel would care if palestinians had their own state or not.

miko

Dowding · « **Reply #13 on:** May 15, 2002, 03:51:43 PM »

I'll dig up the reference. Might have things confused with something else...

Daff · « **Reply #14 on:** May 15, 2002, 06:02:14 PM »

The US goverment failed to provide any evidence to the UK goverment that Iraq, despite all it's flaws (and gesturing) had any involvement in 9/11. It didnt get all that big headlines on the news, as it's not exactly what Tony wanted to hear. (Tony likes bombing Iraq and would love to do it some more).

Daff