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Offline AKSWulfe

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« Reply #195 on: August 09, 2002, 10:48:26 AM »
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Rather cannabis deserves the same legal status as Ecstacy, Meth, crack or whatever is irrevelant- it HAS the same legal status, and to turn around now and legalize pot sends the wrong message to our kids.  


Tell me WHY Elfenwolf.
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« Reply #196 on: August 09, 2002, 10:52:15 AM »
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Tell me WHY


Because its WRONG

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« Reply #197 on: August 09, 2002, 11:01:38 AM »
I have to agree that it sends the wrong message to our kids.
Being single and having none, I tend to overlook the 'kid' factor.

Still, thinking about it this way:  "would I want my kids doing x"
makes me think more conservatively.

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« Reply #198 on: August 09, 2002, 11:04:02 AM »
If that's the only thing the drug war is good for... it sends a message to the kids... it's not worth it.
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« Reply #199 on: August 09, 2002, 11:15:46 AM »
Keep on letting someone else decide what's right and wrong for you Hortlund, it prevents you from using your own mind.
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« Reply #200 on: August 09, 2002, 11:23:57 AM »
Sandman, I agree the war on drugs is failing, but I feel it's the good fight to at least partially stem the flow of drugs onto our streets. The intended target of the WoD isn't against the recreational pot smoker anyway.

Wulfe, cannabis is under the same federal list of banned substances that cocaine heroin LSD PCP and many other hard narcotics are. How can I tell my child that the Government now says it's OK to smoke pot after pot, in her mind, is in the same category as so many truly dangerous drugs?

FYI I was a different person with a different attitude on this subject until I had a child. Would I want her doing some of the crap I did as a teen? Hell no.

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« Reply #201 on: August 09, 2002, 11:24:17 AM »
Ahh, the Kid angle!

First of all, I don't do drugs. I used to do drugs. I quit because I didn't like what they did to or for me.

That being said. The message we send our kids should come from us, not some wacko conservative lawmaker who thinks a joint will lead to depraved sex and debauchery.

Tell them WHY its bad. It ain't bad because it's illegal! Its bad because it does not allow you to be you! It stops you from becoming the full fruition of yourself.

People who define themselves by their latest high, or the great toejam they got from Humboldt County, are just sad shells of who they could become. Tell your kids the truth. Then it won't matter what the government says.

 

And BTW I've smoked plenty in my day and debauchery only happens about every 4th joint.


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« Reply #202 on: August 09, 2002, 11:34:51 AM »
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Wulfe, cannabis is under the same federal list of banned substances that cocaine heroin LSD PCP and many other hard narcotics are. How can I tell my child that the Government now says it's OK to smoke pot after pot, in her mind, is in the same category as so many truly dangerous drugs?
 


There have been things in our history that existed for far longer than cannabis as a banned substance... but they were changed for the better.

How did people tell their children it's okay to drink alcohol after prohibition was repealed? How did people tell their kids it's not okay to drink coca-cola because it has cocaine in it, but they've been doing it all their life?

How do you tell your child anything?

You explain it to them, it's not that hard- they can understand.

You could explain it to your child with just a few words- marijuana is not nearly as damaging a substance as any other schedule 1 drug, nor is it addictive. It also has medicinal benefits, and could be used as a very strong, and cheaper, replacement for cotton.

How did parents explain to their child that in some states it was okay to drink at the age of 18, while in other states not until 21, then it was quickly repealed and a federally sanctioned age of 21 was enforced nation wide?

It's easy to tell kids anything, kids listen and they aren't as dumb as you think.
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« Reply #203 on: August 09, 2002, 11:37:31 AM »
Agree completely MT and in fact I'd like my kid to read your post. You and I agree it prevents a child from realizing their full potential. We agree it creates sad shells of wasted potential who would have been much better off had they never smoked pot. We agree it stymies mental development, affects attitude and is detremental to our children's health. We agree it's harmful not because of what some extremist politician says but rather because of what it does to you. Thank you for enforcing my position. :)

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« Reply #204 on: August 09, 2002, 11:41:41 AM »
I think we all agree that teaching children right from wrong is the parent's job.. not the gov't, schools, nanny, etc.

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« Reply #205 on: August 09, 2002, 11:53:37 AM »
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Sandman, I agree the war on drugs is failing, but I feel it's the good fight to at least partially stem the flow of drugs onto our streets.


BTW Elf- it's easier for a middle school/high school student to get their hands on illicit drugs than it is on alcohol.

And yes, kids shouldn't be doing weed.. but then again, they shouldn't be doing any drugs (including alcohol), it all stunts their mental growth and will harm their futures.
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« Reply #206 on: August 09, 2002, 12:01:00 PM »
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And yes, kids shouldn't be doing weed.. but then again, they shouldn't be doing any drugs (including alcohol), it all stunts their mental growth and will harm their futures.
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And neither should you SW.

Weed ain't doing you any favors either.

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« Reply #207 on: August 09, 2002, 12:10:37 PM »
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And neither should you SW.

Weed ain't doing you any favors either.


Then again... used in moderation, it's probably not hurting him enough to worry about.
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« Reply #208 on: August 09, 2002, 12:21:56 PM »
BTW if anyone in N. California wants to see a marijuana eradication operation in Mendocino County let me know. They stage across the street from my parents' business. It's kewl seeing helicopters with nets full of dope and dump trucks heading out to the sawmill to burn another load. Unfortunately the growers can hear the helicopters coming and they usually escape but every once in awhile they catch the perps. The games begin for real in a couple of weeks.

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« Reply #209 on: August 09, 2002, 12:35:54 PM »
send us video man, c'mon :)

Sacremento eh... old stompin' grounds.  Was at Travis AFB for a while.