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Offline Maverick

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« Reply #135 on: October 11, 2002, 02:56:49 PM »
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Well... it would take a little bit to sell... Bin Laden is on record as not agreeing with the way Hussein practices religion. He's not what they'd call a good fundamentalist muslim. They don't get along according to the reports.


bin laden is not the only enemy of the United States that has hostile intentions. He is not the only one who has funded terrorist operations either. He is certainly not the one that has gone on record by giving a "martyrs reward" of 25K to the families of suicide bombers either. Kind of funny as they claim to be so poor and all that they can't feed all their starving kids.
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Offline H. Godwineson

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« Reply #136 on: October 11, 2002, 03:11:04 PM »
It is not accurate to state that the "last thing the police want is an armed, vigilante citizenry."  That is the stance of the various organizations of Police Chiefs, most of whose jobs are political in nature.  If the police chief of Los Angeles were to state that he believed in an armed citizenry, he could measure his career in hours.

Polls of the rank and file members of the nation's police departments reveal a different mindset altogether.  The great majority do not fear armed and law-abiding citizens.  These officers realize that citizens perfectly capable of making rational decisions when they are being threatened or attacked.  "Vigilante justice" is one of those bugabears that is trotted out whenever this subject is being discussed.  States that have  right-to-carry laws have not been subjected to a rash of vigilante justice.  Instead, they have seen their crime rates go down.

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Offline midnight Target

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« Reply #137 on: October 11, 2002, 03:30:30 PM »
Were there "right to carry" laws in Oklahoma in the 1920's?
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« Reply #138 on: October 12, 2002, 10:32:45 AM »
it's quite simple really... we do have some examples to go on.   Florida had a huge mugging/robbery/violent crime rate that went down by a large percent when right to carry laws were liberalized.  Every state that liberalizes right to carry laws has a corresponding drop in crime rate.    Those whos gun laws are the toughest continue to have a rising violent crime rate..  Australia had a 40% increase (and still going up) when the wusses handed over (so much for rugged and independent myth) their firearms to be shredded.  

Now... Of all those hundreds of thousands of concealed carry people running around...  Have you ever heard of a policeman shooting one by mistake?   do you know what the rate of crime is for these concealed carry people?  

The big bad boogy man firearm is nothing but a tool that some are frightened of and because of their fear they want to punish the rest of us.

By defenition, a "nut" is someone who is not rational.   A "gun nut" to me would be someone who has an irrational fear of guns.   Anti gun guys are the real gun nuts.
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« Reply #139 on: October 12, 2002, 11:17:46 AM »
GUNS GUNS GUNS!
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