Bring the Ki.84-I Hayate "Frank" to Aces High

[ace31st]

the frank is gonna bring alot more competion to deal with... and plus i still havent even PLAYED ah2 yet so i will still need to get the hang of it..

its gonna be a tough first week or so

[Karnak]

P-51D top speed at sea level: 367mph
Ki-84-I-Ko top speed at sea level: probably about 350mph

P-51D top speed at 22,000ft: about 420mph
Ki-84-I-Ko top speed at 22,000ft: 388mph for first prototype, 392mph for second prototype, 415mph reportedly for production model, 424mph in post war American tests

P-51D top speed: 437mph at 25,000ft
Ki-84-I-Ko top speed: see 22,000ft results


Summary, the P-51D is faster in all but the US post war tests done using 100 octane fuel (not all that much of an effect) and a meticulously maintained Ki-84-I-Ko, and above 22,000ft is faster even than that one.

[jetb123]

Originally posted by ace31st
the frank is gonna bring alot more competion to deal with... and plus i still havent even PLAYED ah2 yet so i will still need to get the hang of it..

its gonna be a tough first week or so

 Alot of guys say that ah2 is not a big change over ah1. Other than graphics and fm and dm.

[ace31st]

sorry karnak im lookin at the wrong info.. its still gonna be a good competitor to the pony though.

[Karnak]

Originally posted by ace31st
sorry karnak im lookin at the wrong info.. its still gonna be a good competitor to the pony though.

No problem at all.  I was just trying to give you an idea of what to expect.  There are so many performance numbers out there for the Ki-84 that we're really just going to have to wait for HTC to release v2.01 before we can really know.

My guess would put it at about 350mph at sea level and at 392mph at 22,000ft.

We'll see.

[1K3]

I would like to see the production version of (not the prototype) Ki-84 perform at least 650Km/h @ 6700m instead of 631 Km/h @ 6700m

[Mitsu]

The prototype of Ki-84 flew with 1800hp HA45-Toku engine(aka NK9B Homare "11" engine. Toku means "Special" in English). This engine's spec was 1800hp/takeoff, 1440hp/5700m.

Both Army's data (624km/h and 631km/h) is recorded by this Ki-84.

So if HTC models Ki-84-I-Ko with HA45-21 2000hp engine (production model), its max speed should be 660km/h at least.

[Karnak]

Originally posted by Mitsu
So if HTC models Ki-84-I-Ko with HA45-21 2000hp engine (production model), its max speed should be 660km/h at least.

I'd like that too, but the problem is the test data doesn't exist for it.

The test data exists for the first and second prototypes and the American post war trials.

As I understand it those three data sets are all the exist.  Everything else is just verbal reports from engineers and pilots.

[jetb123]

What kind of guns does the ki-84 have?

[Karnak]

Ki-84-I-Ko (~2,800 built): two 20mm Ho-5 cannon in the wings with 150 rounds each and two 12.7mm Ho-103 machine guns in the cowl with 350 rounds each.

Ki-84-I-Otsu (~500 built): Four 20mm Ho-5 cannon, two in the wings and two in the cowl, with 150 rounds per gun.



Note: The Ki-61-I-Tei in AH is armed with two 20mm Ho-5 cannon in the cowl with 120 round each and two 12.7mm Ho-103 machine guns in the wings with 250 rounds per gun.  The position is different, but if you want to play around with the guns that the most likely Ki-84 will have that will do nicely for you.

[Mitsu]

and two 250kg bombs or two 200l drop tanks under the wing.

[jetb123]

This plane seems way more better than the NIk2J.

[Mitsu]

Everyone says N1K2-J is more turner plane though.

[Karnak]

Not to mention the N1K2-J's 900 rounds of 20mm ammo with four guns as opposed to the Ki-84-I-Ko's 300 rounds of 20mm ammo with two guns.