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Offline Fariz

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« Reply #45 on: November 01, 2002, 06:58:51 AM »
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Originally posted by Hristo
Ki.84 will most likely see double the usage of Yak-3, IMO.

Let's have them both and compare ;).


Probably, you are right. Ok, how about Spitfire IX LF? :)

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« Reply #46 on: November 01, 2002, 07:33:21 AM »
Aww fariz got there first.  Bring the spitfire LF mk IX (clipped wings please:) ) to aces High.
"Willy's gone and made another,
Something like it's elder brother-
Wing tips rounded, spinner's bigger.
Unbraced tailplane ends it's figure.
One-O-nine F is it's name-
F is for futile, not for fame."

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« Reply #47 on: November 01, 2002, 10:05:00 AM »
RAF and Luftwaffe always comes in pairs :D

 bring the lfMkIX and the G-14 to Aces High! :)

 (of course, after the Ki-84 is introduced!)

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« Reply #48 on: November 01, 2002, 10:18:56 AM »
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I challenge anybody to come up with an aircraft that will get used for as many hours per month as the Ki.84 will that is left to be added to AH.

Name an aircraft that would give a greater return on the work HTC puts into it that isn't already in the game.

And keep it real.  No suggestions of He162s or other obvious perk planes, and no aircraft that didn't fight in WWII.


Any real late war spit IX would be used more. Especially if it had a bubble canopy.  THe IL10 might get alot of use. The US twin 40mm on an m24 chassis would be increadably poplular looking at ostwind usage. The P47N would be very popular. As would the Bearcat.
I have often wondered what some of the early alison P51s would be like in the MA especially the 4 hispano ones. Werent they purportedly very very fast on the deck, which is a paramount advantage in the MA.

Lots of planes out there that answer your question. But I am looking forward to the Ki84 as well.
I think that Italian prototypes have no more place in the game then other coutries prototypes. And if we start getting them lets start with the Mb5.

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« Reply #49 on: November 01, 2002, 01:22:43 PM »
I think that if we ever get the early Mustang (or maybe Mustang I, I can't remember) that had 4 Hispanos, the P-51D usage would drop to about what the P-51B use is now.  

The P-47N wouldn't see much use, it actually performed worse than the Ds did because it had so much more fuel.  Now, the P-47M might see some use.  I only know it was fast, don't know if the dogfighting performance and acceleration improved, but if it did they'd see significantly more use than our P-47s.  

A Spitfire LF Mk IX would see some significant use, most of the people that fly the Spit IX now and N1K2 would switch to it.

Those are about the only planes other than the Ki-84 and maybe the Yak-3 that would see any real use in the MA.

Now, what I think would be terrible funny is if we get a G.55 or Re2005 and it performs so well it becomes the new La-7 or N1K2.  I'd just find that humerous :).

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« Reply #50 on: November 01, 2002, 01:42:32 PM »
The Mustang I was indeed fast on the deck.....by 1943/1943 standards.  It'd be about average in the MA speed-wise--not super fast, but still no slouch.

"I think that if we ever get the early Mustang (or maybe Mustang I, I can't remember) that had 4 Hispanos, the P-51D usage would drop to about what the P-51B use is now. "

Then that my friend is reason enough to add it  :)     I always liked flying the P-51D better in that "other" game where only a relatively few people used it.  


A spitfire LF.IX would see a lot of use....10 MPH faster anf 500 FPM more climbrate at normal altitudes than the current Spit 9.....yeah, it's see so much use it might end up being a cheap perk like the C-hog (the unfortunate result of the British having such awesome fighters).  Possibly not though, so it'd be a worthy addition either way.

The Yak-3 would see some use in either of its forms, it'd likely be used by players who like the performance of the Spit 9/N1K2 but want something.....unique.  The earlier 1300 HP Yak-3 would probably be the best addition, for from a scenario/CT perspective and in terms of MA balance.  The major limiting factors of the Yak-3 are lack of range and tiny ammo load.

Bf-109K-4:  If this fighter is added, one would hope it'd be an earlier model K-4 (426 MPH) to represent the earlier batch of upgraded 109's Germany starting using (we already have a 450 MPH 109).  The K-4 would likely become the dominant 109 in the MA since it'd handle better at high speed than the current choices.

The Ki-84, however, is the BEST choice of any of them.   It's a Japanese fighter and would do much to balance CT setups and it also has a lot of utility for events.  It has enough firepower and performance that people would fly it, WITHOUT it becomming too dominating (assumming that it is modeled using Japanese data).  In addition, it's not am American or British fighter and hence would add more variety to the "color" of the MA.


Add the Ki-84!

J_A_B

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« Reply #51 on: November 01, 2002, 01:59:38 PM »
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from Kweassa:400mph plane that turns tighter than a Spitfire.

Yeah, but yas gotta watch out fer them wings comin off, and for "blackout city". They're all limited by human physiology...ain't they?:D

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« Reply #52 on: November 01, 2002, 03:57:23 PM »

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« Reply #53 on: November 01, 2002, 04:12:52 PM »
Those Italian "prototypes" saw squaderon service, and were in Production, that is they were no longer protypes:) I will say this though, I would rather see a C 200 and or a Z 1007, be more usefull in the CT and for events.

 Pongo, could you help me with somthing I have been trying to find info on, I thought I read whear the Twin 40mm on the M24 chaises was in Europe in WW2, but I cant seam to find whear it says so in any of my book's, do you by chance have a refernace for this?

 On the subject of adding yet mor spits and US planes, I would say that I would hope That Japan, Russia, and Italy get some love first.

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« Reply #54 on: November 01, 2002, 04:38:30 PM »
NO
cause you will hang out behind a bomber hanger and vulch me.
I retract my statement on the Italian planes if they saw service.  But I bet fewer were made then many protoypes in other countries.

Ill look for the info Brady.
I thought the brits said they had no faster plane on the deck then the early mustang till the tempest.
Ill look for that too.

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« Reply #55 on: November 01, 2002, 05:15:46 PM »
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Love how he did the flaps.


http://204.50.25.179/gallery01/ki84bc_2.htm


lol, DT is yellow. :)

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« Reply #56 on: November 01, 2002, 05:19:05 PM »
Bring this hayate to Aces High! :)

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« Reply #57 on: November 01, 2002, 06:11:52 PM »
All last night after reading this post I kept thinking how nice it would be to see somthing other than Spit's, and La-7's...

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« Reply #58 on: November 01, 2002, 06:25:01 PM »
Since we are fantasizing about something thats not going to happen.  How about this.

Ki-84-Ib: Ia with four 20mm.

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« Reply #59 on: November 01, 2002, 06:37:06 PM »
To truly, ask for the whine list.:)





The Ki-84-II was a Ki-84-I with different engine and armament.

Data for Ki-84-II:

Engine: one Nakajima Ho-45-21 at 1,990 hp

Speed: 416 mph

For all other performance numbers, see Ki-84-Ia

Armament: either four Ho-5s or two Ho-5s above engine and two 30mm. Ho-105 cannon in wings.