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« Reply #495 on: December 11, 2002, 06:55:53 AM »
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All of them of course, at least a pair of every land animal, insect, bird etc on earth that exists today and then some more since many species died out in the past few hundred years of clearly recorded history.

Come on Hortlund!

YES or NO


All of them? How many species was that exactly when this event occurred, several thousands of years ago?

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« Reply #496 on: July 07, 2003, 08:38:36 AM »
Answer the question Hortlund .

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« Reply #497 on: July 07, 2003, 09:02:29 AM »
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All of them? How many species was that exactly when this event occurred, several thousands of years ago?


I donno but it has to be more than the total of species that exists today, because:

1) We know many species have gone extinct since the start of recorderd scientific history that definitely took place sometime after the supposed flood. So at the trime of the flood and on the ark there had to be more species than now as quite a few have gone extinct. For example the ark had to have had the Dodo Bird and the Tasmanian Tiger  all of which are now extinct. So naturally there were many more species on the ark than exist now.

2) No new animals could have "evolved" since the flood because evolution is obviously unacceptable in this particular religios context.

3) To the best of my knowledge the Bible doers not say God went around introducing new lifeforms after the flood - so nothing else exists except the ark animals.

So by those three statements its obvious there had to be MANY MORE species on the ark then exist today. Nobody really knows haow many species exist today but estimates range from about 2,000,000 to 100,000,000.

http://www.wri.org/wri/biodiv/b02-gbs.html

"Surprisingly, scientists have a better understanding of how many stars there are in the galaxy than how many species there are on Earth. Estimates of global species diversity have varied from 2 million to 100 million species, with a best estimate of somewhere near 10 million, and only 1.4 million have actually been named. The problems stemming from the limits of current knowledge of species diversity are compounded by the lack of a central database or list of the world's species."

So far only 1.4-1.75 million have been scientifically described and named.  For example there are currently some 300,000 species of beetles..  

So there was a bunch....
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« Reply #498 on: July 07, 2003, 09:05:40 AM »
the thread that never dies...bet it makes it to 500 posts now

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« Reply #499 on: July 07, 2003, 09:24:26 AM »
Just wanna be 500 so I can win the new hummer.
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« Reply #500 on: July 07, 2003, 09:25:02 AM »
this oughta do it

where do i pick it up?????
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« Reply #501 on: July 07, 2003, 09:37:59 AM »
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ok Thrawn, using science, prove evolution to me.  Your belief in science does not make it so either.  People gonna believe whatever they want to believe.  Simple as that.


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« Reply #502 on: July 07, 2003, 09:43:49 AM »
ALARM!  DAS IST AN OLD ZREAD!

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« Reply #503 on: July 07, 2003, 10:09:22 AM »
this thread certainly isn't evolving.........

kinda like the flounder.. stuck in mid-evolution

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« Reply #504 on: July 07, 2003, 10:50:49 AM »
Wow, can't believe this one was resurrected.  If you're interested in a thoughtful and scientific analysis of the Creationism-vs-Evolution debate, check this link out.  I've gone through it quite thoroughly, and have concluded that evolution has more unanswered question than the the theory of "intelligent design."

http://emporium.turnpike.net/C/cs/index.htm
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« Reply #505 on: July 07, 2003, 10:58:04 AM »
Wow what a credible source of unbiased veiwpoints ! I'm convinced ! It was magic, god is a witch .
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« Reply #506 on: July 07, 2003, 11:12:41 AM »
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First there was nothing
Then it exploded.

-Big Bang theory.



If there was nothing....how can it explode:D

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« Reply #507 on: July 07, 2003, 12:19:25 PM »
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Wow, can't believe this one was resurrected.  If you're interested in a thoughtful and scientific analysis of the Creationism-vs-Evolution debate, check this link out.  I've gone through it quite thoroughly, and have concluded that evolution has more unanswered question than the the theory of "intelligent design."

http://emporium.turnpike.net/C/cs/index.htm


You've gone through what exactly? That web site?



Evolution is a fact people. Live with it. Be it. Soak it in. It ain't gonna go away no matter how long you stick your fingers in your ears and hum.

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« Reply #508 on: July 07, 2003, 12:47:33 PM »
So much for trying to spark intelligent debate.  Just for grins, let's try one more time.  We'll start with a definition.  Common usage of the word "evolution" is the idea that living things in our world have come into being through unguided naturalistic processes starting from a primeval mass of subatomic particles and radiation, over approximately 20 billion years.  A more precise breakdown of this statement divides the "atoms to people" transition into four realms:

1. Cosmology is the branch of astronomy which deals with the origin and formation of the general structure of the universe (the "Big Bang" theory fits under this heading).

2. Abiogenesis refers to first life - the production of living organisms from inanimate matter.  This part of the theory of evolution is pure speculation, as it has not (despite much effort) been duplicated since it supposedly first happened.

3. Micro-evolution or speciation refers to populational and species change through time. There are many published examples of speciation, if by the development of a new "species" we mean the development of a new population of individuals which will not breed with the original population to produce fertile offspring. Micro-evolution is a scientific fact which no one, including creationists (the Pope, included), dispute.

4. Macro-evolution or general evolution refers to the progression to more complex forms of life. The mechanisms of macro-evolution, including whether or not micro-evolution over a long enough time leads to macro-evolution, can be regarded as a "research topic" (Berra 1990, 12).  This part of the theory of evolution has also never been observed, but only postulized based on fosil records.

Now, which part of the above do you disagree with, and what do you base your disagreement on?
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« Reply #509 on: July 07, 2003, 01:34:37 PM »
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What do you mean?  Only a complete imbecile wouldn't accept evolution as the most viable theory to explain were humans come from.


There that should be a good start.  :D


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