Author Topic: High schools providing condoms (Read 2163 times)

Kieran · « **Reply #15 on:** December 03, 2002, 10:52:21 AM »

I'm obviously not handing condoms out to anyone. Sorry.

Let me expand on that in a fiscal way... how about you guys tell me what books, software, computers, or teachers we can do without so the kids can get free condoms?

Thrawn · « **Reply #16 on:** December 03, 2002, 10:53:27 AM »

Alot of teenagers are irresponsible, part and parcel.

You could see it as the school saying, "IF you choose to have sex, here is condoms".

If you raise your child the way you want to then this shouldn't be a problem as they won't take the condom anyway.

Kieran, isn't there a difference between hand out condoms and making the available?

Kieran · « **Reply #17 on:** December 03, 2002, 10:58:48 AM »

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If you raise your child the way you want to then this shouldn't be a problem as they won't take the condom anyway.

Ok.

Let's provide crack cocaine, too. Let's pass out handguns. If I raise mine right, it shouldn't be a problem.

Some things just crack me up. Don't say "religion" in school, but let's hand them condoms and pretend we aren't sending a moral message. Fact is, just like religion, this has no place in schools.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #18 on:** December 03, 2002, 11:10:44 AM »

I say do it.

When I was a teen, I knew some guys and girls, who came from very religious houses, they were not allowed in sex ed classes.

One of the girls learned on her own, her parents still thought she was a little angel, in the mean time she was doing the whole football team.

Sometimes your kids end up being different people then you think they are, and you may think your kid wont have sex before marriage so they do not need to know about safe sex, but they could be out doing the baseball team.

Kids should not die from aids or other STDs if we can help it.

Not a bash on religion, I knew kids who took it very seriously, and did not want to have sex. This is not a bad thing in my eyes.

Thrawn · « **Reply #19 on:** December 03, 2002, 11:12:06 AM »

Weapons and crack cocaine are dangerous. Are kids going to try and smoke condom or injure someone with them? At worst they will make water balloons out of them. Chance is are they will use them to prevent unwanted pregnancy and protect themselves from STDs.

Of course high school is the place for condoms. Its where young hormonaly hopped up kids meet, congragate and socialise.

SOB · « **Reply #20 on:** December 03, 2002, 11:26:59 AM »

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Originally posted by Kieran
Ok.

Let's provide crack cocaine, too. Let's pass out handguns. If I raise mine right, it shouldn't be a problem.

Some things just crack me up. Don't say "religion" in school, but let's hand them condoms and pretend we aren't sending a moral message. Fact is, just like religion, this has no place in schools.

First of all, don't be retarded

Second, condoms shouldn't just be handed out. If they are made available, they should be available not from you as a teacher but from a counselor or school nurse. Whether it's a good idea or not, some kids are sexually active, some were when you went to school, and some will be when your grandchildren go to school.

The high school I graduated from opened a day care center for the students two years after I graduated. AFAIK, they still don't make condoms available to students. Somehow, the day care center still gets used. If making them available can keep one student from squealing up their lives and keep them from being a burden on society, it's worth it IMO.

SOB

Kieran · « **Reply #21 on:** December 03, 2002, 11:27:48 AM »

Answer the question, Thrawn. What books, software, computers, or teachers are you willing to give up so the kids can have free condoms? Those things aren't free.

Kieran · « **Reply #22 on:** December 03, 2002, 11:29:51 AM »

SOB-

Can't help being retarded- I just am.

Of course I used an extreme analogy, but hey, isn't that regular form for the board?

I guess I should add, of course I know students are sexually active. It really bothers me that this society decides it is easier to concede to irresponsibility. And if you really believe handing condoms to kids isn't handing consent to them in the same motion, I'm not the only one who's retarded.

But... screw it. (ha!)

Thrawn · « **Reply #23 on:** December 03, 2002, 11:33:52 AM »

Doesn't Planned Parenthood pay for it down there?

What's cheaper, paying welfare for a single mother, medical costs for STDs, or a condom.

Kieran · « **Reply #24 on:** December 03, 2002, 11:40:59 AM »

Good question. I tend to doubt that.

Hey, if kids want to go to Planned Parenthood, I could understand that. That is part of the reason for its existance, and is certainly no less private than going to a teacher or counselor. I have a serious problem giving my tacit consent to the students in the confines of my school.

And how's this for a scream... I can't speak of my beliefs or morality in schools- that would be "harmful". Yet, I am supposed to potentially hand out condoms against my beliefs, and very likely against the beliefs of may of the parents in the community?

Sorry, just like religion, this does not belong in the school. There are agencies that handle this.

SOB · « **Reply #25 on:** December 03, 2002, 11:44:34 AM »

LOL! It's great when retards argue, and this is indeed the perfect venue.

I can see how it could be implied consent, but what's the alternative to condeding to this irresponsibility. What reasonable consequence to sexual activity could we impose (that isn't there already - pregnancy, disease, etc) that would cause kids with raging hormones and an penchant to rebel to choose celibacy?

SOB

miko2d · « **Reply #26 on:** December 03, 2002, 11:47:00 AM »

Wlfgng: I don't see how it undermines parental authority given that they can go buy them at 7-11

7-11 is not considered a source of morals in our society. No child is stupid enough to say "that is acceptable because the store clerk told me so..." while "... my teacher told me so..." is completely different.

Besides, if store clerk corrupts your children, you complain to the manager and the pervert will be out in no time. If the teacher corrupts your child - tough luck. Move to the suburb where there is no teacher's union.

Sandman - sure, children will behave irresponsibly. We certainly did. Any kid should have a condom in his wallet (be allowed to find one if not directly given by a parent) or be confined/superwised 24/7. But it is certainly not teacher's job to give them out - or determine the quality of parent's guidance.

In Soviet Union religious parents were obviously bad influence on their children - so the children were sometimes taken away.

Kieran: Some things just crack me up. Don't say "religion" in school, but let's hand them condoms...

That's another thing. Once given condoms, they will pray for a chance to use them. Clearly promotes a religion.

miko

Thrawn · « **Reply #27 on:** December 03, 2002, 11:49:34 AM »

Kieran, where do you suggest kids without access to a Planned Parenthood office or money get comdoms from?

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #28 on:** December 03, 2002, 11:49:45 AM »

Treat kids like pets... neuter and spay the lil' bastards, solves the pregnancy issue atleast.

Hey! Don't need abortions no more either!

Two birds with one stone.
-SW

Rude · « **Reply #29 on:** December 03, 2002, 11:51:21 AM »

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Originally posted by Hawklore
Im a teen and to me having someone provide me with condoms is encouraging sexual activity at an early age and saying that hey yer not responsible take these...

Funny how simple common sense can foster truth.