High schools providing condoms

[Rude]

Originally posted by midnight Target
I have a 14 yr old daughter. I think they should hand out full body condoms to every teenaged pimpley faced twerp with decended balls in the city.

Then meat cleavers to every Father with a teenage daughter.

Yea, that should do it.

What just happened here....I'm in agreement with MT???

Oh...wait a minute....you said meat cleaver. Shotgun is more appropriate.

Father of three daughters:)

[SOB]

Originally posted by miko2d
[B That's another thing. Once given condoms, they will pray for a chance to use them. Clearly promotes a religion.


 miko [/B]

LOL

[jonnyb]

By saying, "Religion does not belong in school," I'm assuming you mean that prayer and observance of ritual does not belong in school.  On the other hand, I believe that education about religion certainly *does* belong in school.  Children should be exposed to different worldly religions, and their histories.  Not to press theological views into their heads, but simply to educate them.

Along the same lines, I fully believe that sexual education should be a part of a child's education.  Learn everything possible so an informed decision can be made about whether or not to engage in the act.

The simple fact is that high school kids are going to have sex.  It is our job as parents to educate them to make the right decision (aka to use protection) when they do.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
Treat kids like pets... neuter and spay the lil' bastards, solves the pregnancy issue atleast.

Hey! Don't need abortions no more either!

Two birds with one stone.
-SW

I've always kidded my father in the presence of my wife that he'd have saved me a TON of money if he had me neutered at age 12

[SOB]

Originally posted by Rude
What just happened here....I'm in agreement with MT???

Oh...wait a minute....you said meat cleaver. Shotgun is more appropriate.

Father of three daughters:)

As cliche as it may be, the father of my first actually had a private talk with me - cleaning his pistol while he outlined the do's and dont's.  Even thought I knew in the back of my mind he couldn't be serious, there was that little bit of doubt.  That doubt kept me out of his daughters panties for a little while, but soon the hormones took over and any rational thought was abandoned.


SOB

PS...I bought the condoms at Shopko.  Took me a half an hour to work up the courage to bring 'em to the counter and buy 'em!  LOL  

[Kieran]

Originally posted by Thrawn
Kieran, where do you suggest kids without access to a Planned Parenthood office or money get comdoms from?

Same place I did... gas stations, drug stores, etc.

Back to the monetary issue... since when is birth control an entitlement, especially to underage citizens? Look, I understand the viewpoint of prevention, really I do. I could even support a birth control entitlement... almost... but not in my school.

[Thrawn]

It's not a entitlement, just a good idea to help society run more smoothly.

[Eagler]

Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
Thanks Eagler. I'm not the least bit interested in your opinion of how I raise my children. You missed the point of the discussion.

I was generalizing unless of course you have given your children pill control and rubbers, then I mean you

Dowding
you planning on your kid having sex at 11?
that is more than wrong, that is sick

[Eagler]

Originally posted by Eagler
I was generalizing unless of course you have given your children pill control and rubbers, then I mean you

Dowding
you planning on your kid having sex at 11?
that is more than wrong, that is sick

and ...

shouldn't this thread have been before the abortion thread?

[Thrawn]

Eagler, when do you plan on your kids having sex?

[Wlfgng]

It does undermine a parents authority when they say, 'no sex while you are a child in my home'

so what's to stop them from buying them at the drug store ?
you should  blame the stores that sell them then.
which is crazy IMO.

the reality is, as Rip pointed out, that many parents should be responsible for their kids but aren't.  In fact, there are too many parents that leave the 'parenting' to schools, daycare, etc.

Maybe it's not right that kids have sex at too early an age but if they do (and they will) isn't it better for them to be protected?

IT'd be worse if they had unprotected sex, caught STD's or ruined their lives with an early pregnancy.

We don't have a 'Leave it to Beaver' type of world so reality creeps in and makes things like condoms necessary.

[-dead-]

Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
That said, I think the schools are completely out of line to provide condoms to students. I think it undermines parental authority, especially those parents that have a different perspective than ours with regard to sexual education and sexual activity among teenagers.

That makes the rather dodgy assumption that parents have any real authority over teenagers' sex lives. IMHO the thing that undermines parental authority most is having teenagers.

[miko2d]

jonnyb: By saying, "Religion does not belong in school," I'm assuming you mean that prayer and observance of ritual does not belong in school.  On the other hand, I believe that education about religion certainly *does* belong in school.

 Not even that restrictive. Prayer and observance do belong in school as long as religious people - teachers and students belong in school. If they pray in their private time with no public money involved - nobody can legally object.


Thrawn: It's not a entitlement, just a good idea to help society run more smoothly.

 Just like all the "good ideas" that got us into this mess originally. The common misconseption of ignorant people is that society creates morals. Nothing can be further from the truth.

 Morals and customs create society - by enabling the carrier population to prosper and outpropagate the others. Development of morals and customs was not a product of reason or intent but of spontaneous evolutionary process.
 Absence of reason or perceived importance was enough justification for arrogant intellectuals to abandon those customs and come up with "reasonable" ones - destroying the foundation of society in the process. Once the screwup brough long-predicted results (Torqueville, Acton, Hayek, etc.), instead of going back to proven morals and starting over from there, remedies from the same discredited set are offered.

 Society was running smoothly with respect to children having sex before socialist edicational and other ideas on parenting and responcibility became accepted policies to the detriment of naturally formed ones.

 miko

[Thrawn]

Now, perhaps you can give some context to what you've posted.

[Eagler]

Originally posted by Thrawn
Eagler, when do you plan on your kids having sex?

The oldest "connected" at 22 and we now have a two year old grand daughter

I think/hope the mess this created will keep his 17 year old brother in the barn slightly longer

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