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Offline Kieran

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« Reply #30 on: December 12, 2002, 10:00:12 PM »
Erlkonig-

That article proves what, that a black writer believes Lott is getting off easy? You can't imagine my surprise if that's what you meant.

Lott is gone, and we all know it. He certainly hasn't gotten a free ride, either, with Republicans pretty much up and down the line excoriating him.

Stanley Crouch needs his pants pressed.
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« Reply #31 on: December 12, 2002, 11:39:55 PM »
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...the ironic thing about it is that lott said the country would be in better shape if thurmond has won the race for president 54 years ago.  thurmond was basicly running as a democrat (dixiecrat - jim crow democrat). i guess 'ol strom finally realised which party was better for racists


Today's Trivia Question:

What party has as a member a senator who is a former KKK member who referred to "white cupcakes" on national TV?

Seems like there is enough soot to go around, and figuring out which party is the pot and which is the kettle could be difficult.  When one party cleans itself, then it have the right to criticize the other.
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« Reply #32 on: December 13, 2002, 12:18:07 AM »
No, Kiernan, I think his point was that he raised concerns over Lott's views on civil rights several years before this recent incident and was ignored by the media.  But I want to know, which one of you is right - can a black man really get away with making blatantly racist remarks, or will he get raked over the coals by the media for something as "innocuous" as having been associated with a black racist organization in the past?  Maybe you and him are both wrong...
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« Reply #33 on: December 13, 2002, 12:21:37 AM »
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You're really reaching Guys.  Trent Lott made that statement at Strom Thurmond's BIRTHDAY PARTY.  You know what happens at a birthday party don't you?  Everyone present says a lot of polite meaningless nothings to make the honoree feel good.  When you make the statement that Lott was being racist you're saying more about yourselves than you are about him.

Get a grip.

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« Reply #34 on: December 13, 2002, 12:26:44 AM »
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can a black man really get away with making blatantly racist remarks


There are plenty of black politicians who support things like affirmative action or reparations - blatantly racist policies.  I find that a lot more offensive than a vague inference from an off the cuff remark somebody made at an old man's birthday party.
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« Reply #35 on: December 13, 2002, 12:52:49 AM »
"Somebody?"

Thats the problem, Funked. He isn't just "somebody." Lott was tasked with a leadership role.  He's either racist, or stupid, or both. He should fall on his sword.

That doesn't mean that there isn't racism elsewhere -  among blacks and in public policy - I'm against affirmative action and been a victim of it. It just has nothing to do with this.
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« Reply #36 on: December 13, 2002, 01:16:59 AM »
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can a black man really get away with making blatantly racist remarks


Who was it who referred to NYC as Himeytown?

Naw, that wasn't a blatantly racist remark....
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« Reply #37 on: December 13, 2002, 02:18:46 AM »
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I am a conservative Republilcan.


In the dictionary under the word "redundant" it says, "see redundant."

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« Reply #38 on: December 13, 2002, 02:23:10 AM »
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Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't, right? Which way would you have had Bush go?


i'd have had him ignore this story-of-the-day the media created because there was no real news they wanted to cover.  he should be too busy to not be above this made for TV controversy
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« Reply #39 on: December 13, 2002, 06:04:05 AM »
It isn't his first slip. In 1980, he put forth similar sentiment - also expressing support for Thurmonds bid for presidency. I suspect he's a closet racist - he might not even be very aware of it himself, but he probably has some issues there. No way of proving it though. But the huge doubt is enough to stop his career.

Seems most conservatives posting in this thread have their head screwed on correctly. He's not been a good leader, he is prone to saying really stupid things and he has done harm to the conservative image. I seriously believe there are more qualified people than him in the Republican party.

I generally agree with the republican philosophy as laid out by wklink. I just don't think that we all have the same chances at success. We all got different cards - some got high IQ, some are compassionate, some are good looking or good at sports and so forth. Then there is the issue of social heritage. Still, I believe the essence of the philosophy (i.e self reliance, hard work WILL get you somewhere) is much more healthy than what we have here in DK, where you actually LOSE money if you go from welfare to a job (given that you're married and have one kid).
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Offline rod367th

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« Reply #40 on: December 13, 2002, 06:13:13 AM »
LOLOLO


  When and only when We elect Good people sen. and house, Not people trained to tell white lies and bold face lies, Then and only then will people, regular Joes and janes  have a voice in goverment.




  USA... WE tell 1 million bad lawyer jokes. And call thenm scum of earth tillwe need one . But we still elect them to run our Country...................... .........
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so let me get this right...
« Reply #41 on: December 13, 2002, 06:37:18 AM »
its ok for the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES to have sex with an employee his daughters age in the HIGHEST OFFICE IN THE COUNTRY but when a bad hair day republican leader mentions something negative, off the cuff, about blacks - HE SHOULD BE THROWN OUT OF OFFICE !!!!!!!!!!!!!

umm - you know if the dumbacrats were consistent, maybe their credibility would go up..

Lott is a block head, but this is being played and stretched for purely political gain and has ZERO to do with minorities and their civil rights

get over it already ...........
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« Reply #42 on: December 13, 2002, 06:57:46 AM »
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can a black man really get away with making blatantly racist remarks, or will he get raked over the coals by the media for something as "innocuous" as having been associated with a black racist organization in the past?


Do we live in the same country? :eek:

Here's the real question; if a black man says such racist comments, what does his support base do, back him to the hilt, or agree he should leave. Now compare that to what has happened to Lott. See a difference?

I have no problem with the idea Lott needs to step aside. I have a pretty serious problem with the hyperbolic accusations from hypocritical race baiting opponents on the left.
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« Reply #43 on: December 13, 2002, 06:59:14 AM »
Eagler, I'd say getting a blowjob is less morally offensive than supporting lynching.

It's beside the point though. Clinton has nothing to do with this issue. You gotta recognize that Lott has screwed up, right? And that most conservatives writing editorials agree that he isn't very good as his job, either. And that he has done damage to the GOP.

So why not replace him? Not impeach him, but replace him.
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« Reply #44 on: December 13, 2002, 07:07:34 AM »
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Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't, right? Which way would you have had Bush go?


sounds like He is hoping he would back him so he could slam Bush as a racist also.
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