The Atomic bomb...why we used it..

[GRUNHERZ]

Originally posted by Gh0stFT
for a second i thought i saw Grunherz posting Ghandi pictures on this forum
not long ago...
...err must be a different one.

Whay ghosth?  Have you no answer but that?  You asked how the nuke attacks were justified, and I answerd by giving you an idea of the alternative - what the invasion of Japan would hav e been like..

[GRUNHERZ]

Originally posted by Gh0stFT
sorry what answere?

its simply my believe, using WMD against civilians cant be the right thing! no matter what country.

So in your opinion its better that several million Japanese be killed and wounded with traditional weapons in an invasion of Japan rather than 200,000 in the two attacks?

Becqause this is exactly what yiou are saying when yiu oppose the nuke attacks - attacks which stopped the war and made an invasion uneccesary..

[anonymous]

Originally posted by Martlet
Because it's an American life.  1 American life is worth more to me than 100,000 German lives.

i cannot believe you think that.

[anonymous]

Originally posted by Golfer
Amen to that.  And Ghost feels the same way for Germany, if not he's either a liar or lacks any semblance of loyalty.

loyalty has nothing to do with what you guys are talking about.

[Martlet]

Originally posted by anonymous
i cannot believe you think that.

Believe it.    I would rather have nuked every city in Germany until they surrendered than lost 1 American life in WWII.

[Gh0stFT]

Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
So in your opinion its better that several million Japanese be killed and wounded with traditional weapons in an invasion of Japan rather than 200,000 in the two attacks?

No Grunherz,

the atomic bomb was ready anyway,
Its about the target(s) what where choosed to show the power of destruction.
We cant change the past, i just hope our generation learns something from that past time.

this discussion ends for me right here ->.

R
Gh0stFT

[Tinpot]

Nuke said ( a while back )

If the Japanese or Germans had had nuclear weapons first, you probably wouldn't be alive and posting on this American made internet today.

I may be wrong but I think some british boffin invented the concept of an internet here in cambridge. You guys just made it work better! lol

[Yeager]

The plan to invade Japan was shelved on the afternoon of August 6, 1945.  Starting on August 9th the plan changed to one of atomic bombardment, one city at a time, until either Japan surrendered unconditionally or ceased to exist as a civilization.

The Japanese played it smart.  They surrendered unconditionally.

[GtoRA2]

Was there not ONE condition to the surender? That the Emperor would not be prescuted for war crimes?

[Chairboy]

Originally posted by Tinpot
I may be wrong but I think some british boffin invented the concept of an internet here in cambridge. You guys just made it work better! lol [/B]

Not quite.  The internet was created by DARPA in the late 1960's in the US.  Tim Berners Lee created the world wide web (which is something that lives on top of the internet, but is not the internet itself) while working at CERN in Switzerland.  Is that what you're talking about?

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Chairboy
Not quite.  The internet was created by DARPA in the late 1960's in the US.  Tim Berners Lee created the world wide web (which is something that lives on top of the internet, but is not the internet itself) while working at CERN in Switzerland.  Is that what you're talking about?

I remember telnet, newsgroups, Pine Mail servers... before the http://WWW.

[anonymous]

Originally posted by Martlet
Believe it.    I would rather have nuked every city in Germany until they surrendered than lost 1 American life in WWII.

sorry i dont. if you were the man and it was your call to nuke every city in germany rather than commit us forces to combat i dont believe youd go for the nukes. if you really believe that all i can say is youre evil and if theres a hell below theres a seat waiting for you.

[Martlet]

Originally posted by anonymous
sorry i dont. if you were the man and it was your call to nuke every city in germany rather than commit us forces to combat i dont believe youd go for the nukes. if you really believe that all i can say is youre evil and if theres a hell below theres a seat waiting for you.

If I were POTUS I'd have nuked the entire country before I'd commit troops to combat.  If you'd kill troops you're sworn to protect when you had other options you're a fraud.

Thanks for your religious judgement though, God.

[anonymous]

Originally posted by Martlet
Thanks for your religious judgement though, God.

anytime, nationalistic sociopath. also ive been in combat more than once and i dont recall the boys *****ing that the cic failed in his oath to protect us. probably because such a promise never existed. as far as warfare and the military go id say your living in lala land.

[Squire]

All wars end Martlet.

The nation-state that you nuke today would have been be your ally tommorow, thats the lesson of history. You utterly destroy nations you are at war with at your peril. The reasons should be obvious enough.

Wars are fought to decide political and economic issues that were not able to be decided peacefully, they are not intended (at least not on the modern world) to completely destroy your enemy, their land, and all their people. If that was the case, the USN would have fired enough Tridents to make Iraq a flat, glass plateau, but they didn't do that. Ask why. There is a reason that despite the proliferation of nuclear weapons since 1945 nobody has used them, because in the end, they go against the long term aims of the user.