Author Topic: America Admits Torture Deaths (Read 3345 times)

LePaul · « **Reply #30 on:** March 10, 2003, 01:59:03 PM »

I feel more sympathy for the pigs they had to kill to bury with these poor lil Taliban boys

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #31 on:** March 10, 2003, 02:00:05 PM »

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Originally posted by LePaul
I feel more sympathy for the pigs they had to kill to bury with these poor lil Taliban boys

LOL!!!!

Sandman · « **Reply #32 on:** March 10, 2003, 02:01:33 PM »

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Originally posted by Eagler
LOL

yeah, right - only because the couldn't
next you'll compare the average terorist to the average US/Brit soldier.....

I hope they were "questioned" one finger at a time .... If 10 die in "questioning" that may save one innocent life .. it was a fair trade.

This just in... Al-Qaeda and Taliban are not the same thing.

Eagler · « **Reply #33 on:** March 10, 2003, 02:13:11 PM »

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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
This just in... Al-Qaeda and Taliban are not the same thing.

are they on opposite sides or do they have a common enemy?

they are one in the same to me and the safety of mine

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #34 on:** March 10, 2003, 02:21:15 PM »

Taliban Invited Al-Qeada into its territory.

Al Qaeda funded much Taliban training and infrastructure development.

Taliban gave Al-Qaeda vast training camps.

Taliban help guide recruits into Al-Qaeda within afghanistan.

Osama Bin Laden apparently married one of Mullah Omars daughters.

Taliban refused to arrest or detain Bin Laden and gang after 911.

Mullah Omar and Bin Laden reoprtedly were fishing and hunting buddies.

And a few others here and there..

Of couse they arent the SAME EXACT SINGLE ENTITY but the links are extensive and obvious - any attempt to deny or lessen that is idiotic and especially in this context should be viewd with suspiction as to the persons real intent...

Curval · « **Reply #35 on:** March 10, 2003, 02:23:02 PM »

Blitz..please just ignore the "I'm glad we tortured them" crowd and read what Dead Man Flying wrote. He summed it up quite nicely I thought. Please also note the fact that the reporting of this incident makes it looks as if it was a government advocated act (if indeed it happened)...when it is much more likely to be individuals acting on their own volition. You seem to want to believe it was Bush who ordered this to be done, effectively falling "hook, line and sinker" into the trap of believing everything you read.

MrLars · « **Reply #36 on:** March 10, 2003, 02:23:08 PM »

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Originally posted by Mini D
Seems we're going to have to ask the Germans to teach us the fine art of torture again.

No need, the CIA learned a lot in Nam...they also learned not to leave any survivors to tell about it.

blitz · « **Reply #37 on:** March 10, 2003, 03:09:02 PM »

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Originally posted by Curval
Blitz..please just ignore the "I'm glad we tortured them" crowd and read what Dead Man Flying wrote. He summed it up quite nicely I thought. Please also note the fact that the reporting of this incident makes it looks as if it was a government advocated act (if indeed it happened)...when it is much more likely to be individuals acting on their own volition. You seem to want to believe it was Bush who ordered this to be done, effectively falling "hook, line and sinker" into the trap of believing everything you read.

Curval, i feel sorry here but why in hell these guys were brought to places outside the USA?

And do you realy think torture isn't used on daily bases after people are caught accused of being terrorists, terrorist supporters or supporters of terrorist supporters?
There are lots of secret groups who can do that. CIA and others.

And much better, foreign friends are used to do the dirty work too.

After 9/11 everything works.

And if Bush knows about? No president in no country ever knows about- you got your boys.....

It's not that article Curval, wrote this by chance yesterday:

Go deal with your allies first and stop them torture people than i'll cue in asap and please ask your presi Bush to also use human rights for people who are accused to be Al Queida members and stop torture them too.

Imho Blitz

There many ways to torture people even without evidence

Mini D · « **Reply #38 on:** March 10, 2003, 03:15:06 PM »

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Originally posted by MrLars
No need, the CIA learned a lot in Nam...they also learned not to leave any survivors to tell about it.

That was 30 years ago. I believe they are out of practice. hell... anyone that knew how to do it well has retired by now. The Germans are the only ones who respect the true art of torcher enough to pass it down from one generation to another. Well.. them and the Chinese who have taken it to a religious level.

MiniD

Steve · « **Reply #39 on:** March 10, 2003, 03:19:20 PM »

its's sensory deprivation.. if anyone really cares to look it up

Dowding · « **Reply #40 on:** March 10, 2003, 03:21:51 PM »

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Why they are so upset about Bush's practices, and seemingly not about Hussein's, et. al.....I don't understand.

I don't know, maybe it's because Hussein is a recognised genocidal maniac and Bush, as supposed leader of the free world... isn't?

You can't stand on the moral high ground condemning others, while carrying out the same acts themselves. There's a word for that.

Grunherz, I'll just edit your post to help it make a little more sense:

Taliban leadership Invited Al-Qeada into its territory.

Al Qaeda funded much Taliban training and infrastructure development.

Taliban leadership gave Al-Qaeda vast training camps.

Taliban leadership help guide recruits into Al-Qaeda within afghanistan.

Osama Bin Laden apparently married one of Mullah Omars (part fot eh Taliban leadership) daughters.

Taliban leadership refused to arrest or detain Bin Laden and gang after 911.

Mullah Omar (Taliban leadership) and Bin Laden reoprtedly were fishing and hunting buddies.

Strangely, the foot soldiers of the Nazi regime were not prosecuted for war crimes. Under your ridiculous notion of guilt throughout the chain of command, the Nurembourg trial would have involved several million people.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #41 on:** March 10, 2003, 03:26:38 PM »

And who says we have detained every single ex Taliban soldier, or even that I agrued that approach? The relatively few people we do have in custody are obviously leadership and high value personell - plus strictly Al-Qaeda terrorists all of which should of course be jailed.

So what the hell is your point?

blitz · « **Reply #42 on:** March 10, 2003, 03:34:27 PM »

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Originally posted by Mini D
That was 30 years ago. I believe they are out of practice. hell... anyone that knew how to do it well has retired by now. The Germans are the only ones who respect the true art of torcher enough to pass it down from one generation to another. Well.. them and the Chinese who have taken it to a religious level.

MiniD

The SS, Gestapo and SD bastards sure had absolutely no scruple about every form of torture but some time has gone by now and the developpment of torture never stopped because bastards
never die out, whereever they may be born at.

Regards Blitz

People who torture are sick and people who order torture are criminals

Puke · « **Reply #43 on:** March 10, 2003, 06:30:18 PM »

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such as having them kicked by female officers.

Don't some people pay for that kind of stuff?

Sixpence · « **Reply #44 on:** March 10, 2003, 06:36:14 PM »

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Originally posted by blitz
And if it was torture, why not, they're only dogs . Can ya torture dogs?

Torture who you want, touch my dog I'll shoot ya!