Report 03-31-03

[Boroda]

Originally posted by Martlet
HAHA, keep trying to turn your failure in Afghan into a win.  

It was definetly a political victory of American administration, but Soviet Army controlled 90% of the country, and there were no religious fanatics that appeared later with the help of the "Land of Free". They were building a civilian society, not Moslim fundamentalism.

Originally posted by Martlet
As for Georgia, keep dreaming.  

Unlike you - I talk to Georgians almost every day. I know how they love Shevardnadze, his Chechen friends and American sponsors.

I bet he'll be overthrown in a matter of weeks if Russian government will get tired of charity and stop supplying them gas, oil and electricity. So far it's done only to reduce sufferings of Georgian people, former one of the richest Soviet republics, lead to a complete disaster by that KGB emplyee.

Originally posted by Martlet
Spy Plane?  Noone on that continent has the ability to force us to land anything anywhere.  It will be much easier for you once you accept that you are a 3rd world country now, and stop trying to act like a super power.

American recon plane crews are so brave they made a beautiful present to Chinese in 2001. BTW, go buy yourself a map, China and Russia are on the same continent.

As for the "3rd world country" - go try to invade Russia or Belorussia as you did with helpless Iraq and Yugoslavia.

[AWMac]

Tomorow Paris, speak?

Figure it out for yourself....

[Martlet]

It was definetly a political victory of American administration, but Soviet Army controlled 90% of the country, and there were no religious fanatics that appeared later with the help of the "Land of Free". They were building a civilian society, not Moslim fundamentalism.

Keep believing the crap.  You must have read that in pravda

I bet he'll be overthrown in a matter of weeks if Russian government will get tired of charity and stop supplying them gas, oil and electricity. So far it's done only to reduce sufferings of Georgian people, former one of the richest Soviet republics, lead to a complete disaster by that KGB emplyee.

More "wait untils"  and "somedays".  Right now, it's the truth.  Any argument about "tomorrow", unless you have a precedent, is pure speculation.

American recon plane crews are so brave they made a beautiful present to Chinese in 2001. BTW, go buy yourself a map, China and Russia are on the same continent.

That plane was rammed.  I suppose if you want to sacrifice a pilot and ram our plane, it will land.  Then we'll tell you to give it back before we kick your ass, and like the Chinese, you will.

As for the "3rd world country" - go try to invade Russia or Belorussia as you did with helpless Iraq and Yugoslavia.

truth hurts, huh?

[Dead Man Flying]

Originally posted by AWMac
Intercepted radio transmissions?   Now I know all that --am--- posted is BS...  and "naturally" backed by Dowding and Broda as being the truth.

err... I think you missed the part where Dowding thinks it's all a bunch of BS.  

-- Todd/Leviathn

[Boroda]

Originally posted by Dowding
I suggest you read my replies again, AWMac.

Boroda - I feel very sorry for you. Your bitterness and paranoia must be soul destroying, apart from the clear errosion of objection reason.

Dowding, can you give me more detailed situational reports then that guy Ramzaj gives?

Again, for those who think we have bears at the streets, wear fur hats all year and always drink vodka:

Russia has several radio recon ships in Persian gulf. Russia still has the world biggest recon sattelite group. There ARE certain groups of Russian military interested in "organized" leaks of information.

Think! (c) IBM.

Even if Ramzaj's reports contain some disinformation - they are worth reading.

[Boroda]

Martlet, giving the spy plane with all equipment to the "possible enemy" is the highest possible stage of cowardice and treason.

No country is allowed to invade other's airspace. Especially when the plane collects information that can be delivered to terrorist organisations and help them killing Russian servicemen restoring order and preventing genocide, slavery and mass murders.

USSR DID control Afghanistan. Ulike you, I have an opportunity to talk to people who served there. US has control only of a part of Kabul and nearby Bagram airfield.

[AWMac]

Reread it DMF....I sorta missed it on the first run.

Disregard Dowding.

*attempting to exit gracefully*

[Dowding]

Dowding, can you give me more detailed situational reports then that guy Ramzaj gives?

Again, for those who think we have bears at the streets, wear fur hats all year and always drink vodka:

Russia has several radio recon ships in Persian gulf. Russia still has the world biggest recon sattelite group. There ARE certain groups of Russian military interested in "organized" leaks of information.

Think! (c) IBM.

Even if Ramzaj's reports contain some disinformation - they are worth reading.

Detail does not automatically translate to accuracy. I don't doubt Russia's recon ability. I simply doubt the veracity, accuracy and reliabilty of this source. This is the internet, afterall.

If they contain disinformation? If? The bias seems completely towards a negative view of the conflict. The undoubted successes are not described in any detail whatsoever. They are worth reading - but I think only a fool would not apply a handful of salt to the reports.

[Martlet]

Originally posted by Boroda
No country is allowed to invade other's airspace. Especially when the plane collects information that can be delivered to terrorist organisations and help them killing Russian servicemen restoring order and preventing genocide, slavery and mass murders.

 

And if you had the power to do something about it, you would.  But alas, Russia IS a 3rd world country, powerless to protect it's borders from a country as weak as the US.

Try sending a spy plane over here and see what happens.

[Rude]

I know the Russian people to be proud and competent....very resourceful. A good people who love their families and wish for nothing more than a peaceful life affording opportunity to live out their lives as they choose to.

In that nation, just as in any you might mention, are those who would wish failure on the US effort in Iraq or any other effort for that matter....hardened hearts, full of hate for the US and what we stand for. We have them here in our own country....a very small and pitiful group who are seen, heard and then ignored.

As many nations have before, once again am and boroda have misjudged our president, the citizens of the US and especially are troops....if pushed, this president will not back down.

The Japanese made the same mistake at Pearl Harbor....I believe the quote was "we have awakened a sleeping giant".

Times and methods are different now, but the resolve of the American citizen is not....we turn against ourselves, insult one another, fight one another over what we believe....however, give us a common foe and no other nation in the world will join together faster and more deliberately than the US.

Some may be right in that our actions today may bring future reactions against our nation....I say let it happen and let it happen now....I find the most benefit recieved by the past 2 years of circumstances, is that we now have a much clearer picture of who are truly our friends in this world....I'de rather face my enemies with a fighting chance, then to get stabbed in the back by those who say they are our friends only to benefit themselves.

God will sort all of this out....in the meantime, I stand in support of trying to do what's right in this world, rather than what is politically expedient.

Post what you may my Russian comrades...it won't change a thing:)

[Martlet]

Originally posted by Rude
I know the Russian people to be proud and competent....very resourceful. A good people who love their families and wish for nothing more than a peaceful life affording opportunity to live out their lives as they choose to.

In that nation, just as in any you might mention, are those who would wish failure on the US effort in Iraq or any other effort for that matter....hardened hearts, full of hate for the US and what we stand for. We have them here in our own country....a very small and pitiful group who are seen, heard and then ignored.

As many nations have before, once again am and boroda have misjudged our president, the citizens of the US and especially are troops....if pushed, this president will not back down.

The Japanese made the same mistake at Pearl Harbor....I believe the quote was "we have awakened a sleeping giant".

Times and methods are different now, but the resolve of the American citizen is not....we turn against ourselves, insult one another, fight one another over what we believe....however, give us a common foe and no other nation in the world will join together faster and more deliberately than the US.

Some may be right in that our actions today may bring future reactions against our nation....I say let it happen and let it happen now....I find the most benefit recieved by the past 2 years of circumstances, is that we now have a much clearer picture of who are truly our friends in this world....I'de rather face my enemies with a fighting chance, then to get stabbed in the back by those who say they are our friends only to benefit themselves.

God will sort all of this out....in the meantime, I stand in support of trying to do what's right in this world, rather than what is politically expedient.

Post what you may my Russian comrades...it won't change a thing:)

Man, I need to develope some tact.

You say "screw you" and make it sound so good.

[Boroda]

Originally posted by Dowding
Detail does not automatically translate to accuracy. I don't doubt Russia's recon ability. I simply doubt the veracity, accuracy and reliabilty of this source. This is the internet, afterall.

If they contain disinformation? If? The bias seems completely towards a negative view of the conflict. The undoubted successes are not described in any detail whatsoever. They are worth reading - but I think only a fool would not apply a handful of salt to the reports.

Sure, they shold be read with understanding that they serve some purpose other then simply informing our possible enemy of our recon capabilities. It is a part of information warfare. But so far I didn't see any "facts" there that can be directly proved to be a lie.

"Negative view" for you is a positive view for me. I think that it's no secret that I'll be upset if intervents will win this war (and they probably will).

Sorry for my almost-hysterical posts. You know, GH simply pisses me off, I can't tolerate him. Now I got myself a bottle of Cabernet and chilled down a little. Nice when you can drink a glass or two at the workplace.

[Boroda]

Rude, thank you!



All I can add is that I have deepest respect to any servicemen who do their combat duty. It's not their fault that they have to spilltheir blood for the interests of some stupid politicians They simply do what they have to.

[GRUNHERZ]

LOL Now its my fault you are raving lunatic with no connection to reality... Its no wonder russia is in such a bad state you all just get drunk and talk of phantom victories and the good old days whenever anyone points out how bad it is instead of trying to move forward and improve the situation. See ya in 200 years!

[Rude]

USSR DID control Afghanistan. Ulike you, I have an opportunity to talk to people who served there. US has control only of a part of Kabul and nearby Bagram airfield

Awfully presumptious of you boroda...I have three Russian friends here who all served in Afganistan....horror stories they share about the failures....one whose job was to collect, remove and transport dead Soviet troops speaks of the lack of planning and leadership in the Soviet command which brought about the deaths of his comrades.

War is never a good thing...sometimes it's necessary I guess...at least it seems that way to me...who knows, like I said, God will sort it all out...we all will reap what we sow...every one of us.

The best solution is to simply love one another....unfortunetly, the nature of man simply will not allow this to happen on a wholesale basis.

I wish not one of you any ill will, regardless of where your from or what you believe in....I just get worked up at times because I'm a foolish man....but as long as my country and my brothers are engaged in combat, I will support their efforts and my presidents...nothin personal:)

NP Boroda....best thing we all could do, is fly more and post less in this crappy forum....I was alot happier as an AH subscriber before I found this rotten place called the O'Club....Dale should rename it....perhaps The Outhouse would be more appropriate...at least then, new players would have some indication as to what they'll get themselves into:)