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« Reply #45 on: April 09, 2003, 12:13:18 PM »
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That's his standard line when he's caught with a handful of crap.


Hmm. How to translate "Moy dorogoy nedalekiy drug!"? :rolleyes:

Martlet, US forces fired at diplomatic convoy. They wounded 4 persons who are immune according to Viena convention. It is a fact.

Seing you repeating what your "news sources" feed you and trying to behave as if bloody Russians shot themselves clearly shows that you are keeping with Party line.

Are you simply not allowed to say anythng else? I see no other reasons for absolutely abandoning common sence.

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« Reply #46 on: April 09, 2003, 12:15:23 PM »
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Boroda,

So Western media lies, but Russian media doesn't?  Doesn't that seem a little bit wierd to you?


All media lies. It's their way to earn money.

do you want to tell me that the episode I described didn't happen!?

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« Reply #47 on: April 09, 2003, 12:15:44 PM »
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Originally posted by Boroda
Hmm. How to translate "Moy dorogoy nedalekiy drug!"? :rolleyes:

Martlet, US forces fired at diplomatic convoy. They wounded 4 persons who are immune according to Viena convention. It is a fact.

Seing you repeating what your "news sources" feed you and trying to behave as if bloody Russians shot themselves clearly shows that you are keeping with Party line.

Are you simply not allowed to say anythng else? I see no other reasons for absolutely abandoning common sence.



I have asked you specifically for evidence of this.  You have none.

Odd that half of the crap you spew is without evidence, yet the rest of the world is wrong.

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« Reply #48 on: April 09, 2003, 12:18:14 PM »
OK, so...

1.  All media lies.
2.  You heard from the media (that you can't provide a link for) that Russian diplomats were shot by US troops.

Dim-witted commie conclusion: US Troops fired willfully on Russian diplomats.

Makes perfect sense.  Thanks.


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« Reply #49 on: April 09, 2003, 12:20:30 PM »
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Boroda aren't you tired of riding that horse yet??

most of the things you belived early on in this war have been proven false, but you still insist on believing this stuff..
wow
I understand you have been fed propoganda out your ears for most of your life, but you seem so intelligent and learned and still  you can't see past your own beliefs.

Notice how other people learn and change their views over time when presented with the facts?

one might take a clue from that...instead of stubbornly adhering to their old beliefs.


.....IM STILL WAITING FOR THE TRUTH IF SADDAM HAS WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION!!! All I see on T.V. is mask and RPGs. C'mon thats not a WMD.

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« Reply #50 on: April 09, 2003, 12:22:17 PM »
i'm confused by the russian convoy, why would the russians make a dangerous run across the desert for syria instead of asking for a escort by the americans, the US would have even flown them out if they had asked.

what were the russians trying to hide?
and why syria and not jordan or iran (iran is closer)?
« Last Edit: April 09, 2003, 12:25:10 PM by john9001 »

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« Reply #51 on: April 09, 2003, 12:26:17 PM »
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
Oh, no!  It seems that one more source of independent, unbiased reporting has ceased reporting after repeatedly proving itself wrong about the conduct and prognosis of the war effort.

Guess we'll just have to stick with Pravda for the truth from now on.

-- Todd/Leviathn


Well, Ramzaj reports were very interesting, and didn't contain obvious lies like "coalition" reports. Just remember how they captured Umm Quasr 6 or 7 times and "captured" all the 51st division. Having a source of information from other side is always good, especially if it isn't obvious propaganda like official Iraqi sources.

About pravda.ru: they don't have anything common with "Pravda", the official Communist party newspaper.

About your link in next message: what's so funny there? The nuclear waste facility is dangerous, and it's no joke...

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« Reply #52 on: April 09, 2003, 12:27:32 PM »
Tell me Baroda is not basing the validity of an article on an Iraqi Doctor's assesment of a bullet he pullied out of a Russian diplomat.  Please.  Seems the doc had two options: "Its an American bullet" or "Ooops, looks like its one of ours".

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« Reply #53 on: April 09, 2003, 12:31:44 PM »
So you say that all media lies, but you heard a media report and believe it as the gospel truth?  Sounds like clear thinking to me.  Sorry to doubt you Boroda.

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« Reply #54 on: April 09, 2003, 12:36:57 PM »
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Originally posted by john9001
i'm confused by the russian convoy, why would the russians make a dangerous run across the desert for syria instead of asking for a escort by the americans, the US would have even flown them out if they had asked.

what were the russians trying to hide?
and why syria and not jordan or iran (iran is closer)?


Russians informed "coalition" command about their route. They were guaranteed they will have a secure passage. I doubt they could have asked for helping to evacuate them by air - you know, it's dangerous to land a chopper in Baghdad, they fall down there every day.

What they were trying to hide? I don't know, but what they COULD hide? A brand new Apache shot down from a bb-gun?

Why Syria - it's obvious, Jordan is controlled by US forces, and Syria is still neutral and will not let any stupid sergeant search diplomatic stuff. Iran - I doubt it's closer then Syria if you want to get to Russian diplomatic mission and a safe airport.

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« Reply #55 on: April 09, 2003, 12:41:52 PM »
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Tell me Baroda is not basing the validity of an article on an Iraqi Doctor's assesment of a bullet he pullied out of a Russian diplomat.  Please.  Seems the doc had two options: "Its an American bullet" or "Ooops, looks like its one of ours".

MiniD


ManyD, there are many other bullets stuck in cars and buses. Don't try to look as if you don't understand...

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« Reply #56 on: April 09, 2003, 12:42:40 PM »
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Originally posted by Boroda
Russians informed "coalition" command about their route. They were guaranteed they will have a secure passage. I doubt they could have asked for helping to evacuate them by air - you know, it's dangerous to land a chopper in Baghdad, they fall down there every day.

What they were trying to hide? I don't know, but what they COULD hide? A brand new Apache shot down from a bb-gun?

Why Syria - it's obvious, Jordan is controlled by US forces, and Syria is still neutral and will not let any stupid sergeant search diplomatic stuff. Iran - I doubt it's closer then Syria if you want to get to Russian diplomatic mission and a safe airport.


I finally got the truth.

Iraqis, angry that the Russians sold them all of those garbage weapons, decided to seek their revenge.

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« Reply #57 on: April 09, 2003, 12:43:09 PM »
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Well, Ramzaj reports were very interesting, and didn't contain obvious lies like "coalition" reports. Just remember how they captured Umm Quasr 6 or 7 times and "captured" all the 51st division. Having a source of information from other side is always good, especially if it isn't obvious propaganda like official Iraqi sources.
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You mistakenly assume that such events were lost on Western media when they most certainly were not.  There were plenty of articles noting the fierceness of Iraqi paramilitary resistence in certain cities, and the Washington Post had a long piece about coalition troops under fire in An-Nasiriya.  This material appears outside of CENTCOM sources.

Ramzaj suffered from a huge credibility problem.  One day, they reported 50 Americans killed in one ambush, and another three units lost somewhere else.  When it became apparant that these numbers were completely out of sync with the official numbers of coalition dead, they tried to cover their butts by stating (on 4/1/03):

"The official coalition losses are, to put it mildly, 'falling behind' the actual figures. The 57 dead acknowledged by the coalition command reflect losses as of the morning of March 26. This information was provided to a BBC correspondent by one of the top medical officials at a field hospital in Al Kuwait during a confidential conversation. 'We have standing orders to acknowledge only those fatalities that have been delivered to the hospital, identified and prepared to be sent back home. The identification process and the required standard embalming takes some time – occasionally up to several days. But only the command knows how many casualties we sustained today and you will learn about it in about three days…'"

And yet here we are, far more than three days later without any indication of the massive numbers of coalition dead indicated in the reports.  Just how long does it take to embalm someone anyway?  This smells like horsecrap to me.

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About pravda.ru: they don't have anything common with "Pravda", the official Communist party newspaper.
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Could've fooled me.

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About your link in next message: what's so funny there? The nuclear waste facility is dangerous, and it's no joke...


Oh, gosh, I don't know... maybe the picture of a massive nuclear explosion and the headline "Nuclear Blast Near Baghdad" indicating something that happened rather than something that could happen?

Also the fact that the article has nothing at all to do with nuclear explosions could have something to do with it.  I doubt that a Tomahawk missile would initiate a nuclear reaction that would set off some massive nuclear blast even if it did smack into a mountain full of uranium.

-- Todd/Leviathn

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« Reply #58 on: April 09, 2003, 12:43:20 PM »
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ManyD, there are many other bullets stuck in cars and buses. Don't try to look as if you don't understand...


He wasn't trying to look like he didn't understand.   He was sarcastically pointing out that you are full of crap

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« Reply #59 on: April 09, 2003, 12:44:56 PM »
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. I doubt they could have asked for helping to evacuate them by air - you know, it's dangerous to land a chopper in Baghdad, they fall down there every day.

A brand new Apache shot down from a bb-gun?



Simple needless comments like these guarantee that you will never be taken seriously on this BBS, Borada.

You can make your point, or attempt to, without doing your best to insult the United States and it's military at every turn.