Author Topic: Awaiting the disinformation explosion... (Read 2591 times)

Arfann · « **Reply #90 on:** April 18, 2003, 11:24:17 AM »

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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
For the last time: The war was NOT illegal, research it and don't go by what some hippy says.
-SW

I could do your homework for you, but you wouldn't really learn anything from it. How about I just give you a hint. If yer Google's not broke, go there and use "Illegal Invasion" as a search. Some stuff by "hippies", but lots from the international legal eagles too.

Martlet · « **Reply #91 on:** April 18, 2003, 11:26:38 AM »

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Originally posted by Arfann
I could do your homework for you, but you wouldn't really learn anything from it. How about I just give you a hint. If yer Google's not broke, go there and use "Illegal Invasion" as a search. Some stuff by "hippies", but lots from the international legal eagles too.

You could find articles supporting both sides.

Arfann · « **Reply #92 on:** April 18, 2003, 11:27:40 AM »

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Originally posted by Smut
Please explain why in your opinion the attack against Iraq was illegal.

Indeed, a strong case could be made that it was simply a continuation of the first Gulf War. Or are you denying the Iraqi's violated the terms of the cease fire that they agreed to in 1991?

-Smut

Try "pre-meditated" invasion of a sovereign state. Saddam was a tyrant. Iraq violated the terms of the cease fire. These are issues to be dealt with via the UN or other international court. Not unilaterally by Dubya, using the disaster of 9/11 to get the sheep to back him up and give him congressional authority.

Mini D · « **Reply #93 on:** April 18, 2003, 11:32:04 AM »

Could you define a "legal" war?

Arfann · « **Reply #94 on:** April 18, 2003, 11:40:05 AM »

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Originally posted by Mini D
Could you define a "legal" war?

Historically, that would be one that you win. This one is by default illegal, since the only way to win it would have been to not start it.

Martlet · « **Reply #95 on:** April 18, 2003, 11:41:40 AM »

this war was completely legal.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #96 on:** April 18, 2003, 11:42:28 AM »

That is single most stupid thought I have ever seen put down in print...

Congrats Arfann!

AWMac · « **Reply #97 on:** April 18, 2003, 12:01:39 PM »

LOL Grun

Dowding · « **Reply #98 on:** April 18, 2003, 12:02:17 PM »

Excellent comeback, cpxxx. Not only did you attack the the BB avatar, but you attacked the name. The last resort when out of arguments, usually. I particularly like how you tried to make out I would even think of arguing that Rumsfeld personally robbed Iraq.

As for Rumsfeld's remarks, you're arguing based on what wasn't said, where I am quoting Rumsfeld on what he did say.

"If you go from a repressive regime in that transition period, there is untidiness. Stuff happens ... And it's untidy. And freedom's untidy. And free people are free to make mistakes and commit crimes and do bad things."

Saving critical infrastructure is not strategically important? You should check on the part of the war aims under under 'hearts and minds'. Alleviating the humanitarian suffering is a critical part of that and has been emphasized by the Coalition time and time again.

As for the oil ministry - having that looted wouldn't destroy the oil or the pumping stations or the refinery.

Rude · « **Reply #99 on:** April 18, 2003, 12:07:52 PM »

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Originally posted by Arfann
I could do your homework for you, but you wouldn't really learn anything from it. How about I just give you a hint. If yer Google's not broke, go there and use "Illegal Invasion" as a search. Some stuff by "hippies", but lots from the international legal eagles too.

You've made the assumption that the US is liable to the international community....sorry man....it's about whats good for the USA and those who chose to be our true friends.

This was not Vietnam.

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #100 on:** April 18, 2003, 12:10:38 PM »

I already did my homework, I could tell you to use Google and look up certain legality rulings by the British General Attorney or you could try your aforementioned of google and type in various search strings...

I would do YOUR homework for you, but it's obvious you didn't learn much from your own.
-SW

Dowding · « **Reply #101 on:** April 18, 2003, 12:12:17 PM »

The British General Attorney of what?

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #102 on:** April 18, 2003, 12:16:25 PM »

of Britain? I didn't know you had more than one.
Here's the story:
http://www.breakingnews.ie/2003/03/16/story91854.html

However, rather than repeat myself, I will point you to this thread:
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=82095
-SW

Dowding · « **Reply #103 on:** April 18, 2003, 12:20:24 PM »

Hardly an objective opinion. Afterall, Britain is a combatant. Therefore, pretty irrelevant. It was impossible for him to say anything else.

AKIron · « **Reply #104 on:** April 18, 2003, 12:24:39 PM »

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Originally posted by Dowding
Hardly an objective opinion. Afterall, Britain is a combatant. Therefore, pretty irrelevant. It was impossible for him to say anything else.

That's a pretty self-serving statement. I dunno about Britain, but here in the US folks feel pretty free to express their displeasure at the government, including many in elected government offices. Maybe you folks aren't allowed freedom of speech?