since most of us play more then 1 game i though some of you would be intrested...

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by ZeroAce
Some of you may harbor past resentments towards CRS... But remember it wasn't their fault, Strategy first made them release WAY before they were suppose to.

Strategy first forces ALL of their games to release early.. They are bad producers, but CRS is a highly skilled development team that has turned the game around dramatically in 2 years.

If you ever liked WW2 simulations, you owe it to yourself to give WW2OL another try... It has come so far that you won't even recognize it.

It's just extremely bad form to spam an advert for a game on the rival's message boards.


Ack-Ack

[ZeroAce]

Dead Man, you're obviously very confused.

Let's back up to what you originally said:

And WW2OL is a ground combat simulator with planes for you to play around in when you're bored with tanks or infantry.

You were clearly making an assertion about WW2OL's gameplay in that statement. Saying that it all focused around the ground units with air being a side show.

Which is 100% false in every way.

Somehow you have now warped that around to mean that what you originally  said was only refering to the accuracies of the tank and infantry models vs the air models?

Well then again you are still 100% false, because the vehicles and infantry are modeled with the same level of fidelity as the air models are.

Having never even played the game yourself, you should avoid such wide sweeping accusations.

[Dead Man Flying]

Originally posted by ZeroAce
You were clearly making an assertion about WW2OL's gameplay in that statement. Saying that it all focused around the ground units with air being a side show.

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And you were making an assertion about ground vehicles in Aces High that were 100% false.  I'm willing to bet that the Ostwind had more kills last tour than the top plane.  Ground vehicles are hardly useless or a side show.  They are, in fact, essential to an effective base defense.

Well then again you are still 100% false, because the vehicles and infantry are modeled with the same level of fidelity as the air models are.

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LOL!  You're trying to get us to join up, right?  With statements like this, you're not going to win any converts.

Having never even played the game yourself, you should avoid such wide sweeping accusations.

Oddly, I have played the game before.  But since the truth doesn't seem to stop you, I'm not about to let it stop you now.

-- Todd/Leviathn

[ZeroAce]

Is there a P38 in WW2 online?

Not right now, but it's slated for develpment.

The development cycles have sped up dramatically in the last few patches, so I wouldn't be surprised if we see one around late summer or early fall.
(Not that it would take that long for the P38 to be built, but they have a very agressive list of things they want to do before then).

[WldThing]

Originally posted by SunKing
Wouldnt be cool to have a shotout.. Say,,ten of our top players vs ten of theirs.. Have duels in each game and see what comes of it.     My money is on the hometeam.

LOL Sun...I wish..

[Bluedog]

Tried it.
WWIIOL is utter crap (as far as planes go, ground vehicles dont really interest me), thanks anyway for the offer.
The flight model over there is bull****,Stukas can outloop Spitfires, you can land your 109 on the ocean, then put your gear down. your plane will rise up, and you can taxi around on the water.
Pretty realistic damage/physics model there wouldnt you say?

CRS ripped me off when I payed AU$ 80 for their buggy code in a box, that upset me, and they would have to come up with some pretty fancy discounts on subscription to get me back as a customer.....(we're  talkin' fully refund me they money they swindled when I bought it)..I'm fairly certain that I am not alone in feeling that way.
On top of that, add the whining hordes of little kids with big egos, and you have about as much chance of getting guys like me to play that crap as a snowball would in Hell.

have a nice day.

Blue

[ZeroAce]

And you were making an assertion about ground vehicles in Aces High that were 100% false.

I never said that. Point out where you think I did.

LOL! You're trying to get us to join up, right?

I'm not here to convince you about anything, just to give you an informed opinion about WW2OL.

With statements like this, you're not going to win any converts.

What is wrong with the factual statement I made that WW2OL's tanks and aircraft are modeled with the same level of fidelity?

Oddly, I have played the game before.

You can claim you did, but we don't know... Regardless, your innaccurate statements demostate how you haven't played for any signifigant amount of time, let alone played recently.

[Dead Man Flying]

Originally posted by Ack-Ack
The flight model in WW2OL is akin to the old RR flight model of AW with black/redouts turned on.  And yes I've played, been playing off and on since it first came out and the flight model isn't all that it's cracked up to be.  The boxed game IL2's flight model is far superior than anything WW2OL can come up with.

Isn't it comforting to know that CRS models the infantry and vehicles with the same level of fidelity as the airplanes?

-- Todd/Leviathn

[ZeroAce]

Now since you wanted to bring up the differences between ground vehicles, the pivotal difference between AH vehicles and WW2OL vehicles is in both their damage modeling and how they are employed.

In WW2OL, vehicles damage is modeled the same way air damage is... Meaning, they put all your internal components and crew positions inside the vehicle, they slap armor thickness on, and then they even calculate the difference in penetration values between the different qualities and german, french, and british armor.

[ZeroAce]

Take Bluedogs opinion for what it's worth - an opinion that was formed two years ago at the games rushed release.

If you want to harbor blind hate for WW2OL forever because you feel like you got ripped off, go for it.

But you are only hurting yourself as a gamer for missing out on the best WW2 combined arms simulation to date.

[Mini D]

Allright....  who stepped in some hardcase?  The smell is awfull.  Everyone check their shoes.

MiniD

[Bluedog]

You've got me wrong, my initial opinion was formed 2 years ago, yes, but i didn't give up, I kept popping back for a look with every patch, hoping that they had finally got it right.
Alas, to this very day, I have been disappointed each and every time.

[Ring]

Karnak
actually the map is flyable 980km X 980km

http://www.freewebs.com/nrakjar/maps.html

[ZeroAce]

you can land your 109 on the ocean, then put your gear down. your plane will rise up, and you can taxi around on the water.

Landing interaction has nothing to do with how a plane flies or takes damage.

In respect to the last two, WW2OL is better than everything but IL-2:Forgotten battles.

[chaunsey]

ring killer has said its actually flyable more then that hehe

it may be possible to fly in 1 direction and come back around the other he said,but nothnig has that much fuel and there is no modeled terrain or ocean even that far out i believe.