Author Topic: made funked and nopoop drive the big ugly car. (Read 3852 times)

classy man · « **Reply #75 on:** July 28, 2003, 11:12:09 AM »

lol! big blocks.

maybe back when they were cutting egde tecknology. but mister pleese enter the 2000's. Big block motors are NOT what cuts it these days. it takes tecnology, not just throwing together a big unefficient engine. designers today actually have to think about the design. there's no way you can beet a mitsubishi spider with some old rusty tired elk kamino. just no way! lol! you old timers really crack me up.

Mini D · « **Reply #76 on:** July 28, 2003, 11:13:31 AM »

How's the beemer running classy man?

Dowding · « **Reply #77 on:** July 28, 2003, 11:18:14 AM »

What does that link prove exactly? That big block cars are good in a straight line? That is a point I don't contest and indeed have never contested. Out of interest, what model of Evo did they use?

Now, show me the times of those cars around Donnington or Silverstone and I'd be more interested.

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Big blocks are it. They are the car anyone can afford that can stomp the **** out of anything. $30,000 could get you a monster capable of shaming anything on the roads. But you took a corner in an evo and wet yourself, now you refuse to hear anything out there could beat it (much less anything 35 years old).

Now you're ranting MiniD. I'm sorry, but it's the truth - and resorting to infantile name calling just emphasizes that fact. On top of that you bring out the price argument. Again.

Although I am interested by your $30,000 remark - which car in particular? The Cobra SVT is $35,000 IIRC, which is about the price of an imported Evo.

I saw a slalom test where the Evo was beaten only by the Mosler Photon in that test - a $150,000 car.

Mini D · « **Reply #78 on:** July 28, 2003, 11:22:23 AM »

LOL dowding... you poor poor excuse for a boy.

I do like your argument though... all one really has to do is bring their car over where you can see it in order to prove to you how much faster it is than an evo. Its really that simple.

LOL!

Its all right dowding. Eventually, you'll grow up and find there are things out there that are actually better/worse than what you have personally experienced. At least I hope so... it would be rough having yet another drippy in the forums... a british version at that.

MiniD

Dowding · « **Reply #79 on:** July 28, 2003, 11:27:33 AM »

Again, the personal attacks. That's a real shame.

Toad · « **Reply #80 on:** July 28, 2003, 11:27:57 AM »

The warmth, love, mutual respect and admiration expressed in these posts has just left me speechless.

Over the old "big blocks" vs the "twisty turners"?

Had 'em both. Both were fun. The big blocks were more fun and sounded waaaaaaaaaay better.

YMMV.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #81 on:** July 28, 2003, 11:44:15 AM »

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Originally posted by Dowding
Again, the personal attacks. That's a real shame.

Hey, he got two birds with one stone that time!

Edit: rest of my post was out of content.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #82 on:** July 28, 2003, 11:47:27 AM »

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Originally posted by Toad
The warmth, love, mutual respect and admiration expressed in these posts has just left me speechless.

Over the old "big blocks" vs the "twisty turners"?

Had 'em both. Both were fun. The big blocks were more fun and sounded waaaaaaaaaay better.

YMMV.

Agreed, but it depends on your usage of said vehicle. I wouldn't commute in the Big Block 80 miles a day, but the Twisty Turny works fine for that.

lazs2 · « **Reply #83 on:** July 28, 2003, 12:11:57 PM »

dowding... you still haven't told me about the killer car that you have built/own.

I admit that an astronomer might know a lot about stars but I bet an astrounaut knows a little more about how stars look. At 25 I seriously doubt that you have driven that many fast cars. You have to build/own drive/live with em before you really can speak about em... Oh.... BTW, I have driven a real 427 cobra and many big block Vettes and Hemi powered cars as well as lotus's My buddy has a kit car 427 cobra that does most everyrthing better than the originals... lot of fun runs low 12 sec like my Healey.

classy man... the elky is a piece of junk but... rust free arizona car... never been hit .. frame is straitght as an arrow according to the laser allignment machine at my sons.

I like funked's car. If I had to have a dependable car to take on a trip and melt into the crowd... It would be great as would an M3.... still.... I put air conditioning in the elky and listening to that motor at night out in the desert.... mashing ther throttle on an uphill sweeper heading to Fort Bragg..
lazs

funkedup · « **Reply #84 on:** July 28, 2003, 12:28:55 PM »

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Originally posted by Mini D
Everyone pretty much acknowledged the little white rice burner was a decent car, but its not something people should go thinking is a monster (I do believe funkypants may have had notions this was the case). The 60's big blocks were monsters.

No, I knew my car was not some kind of monster. There are many other WRX's which are much faster. Hell there are guys out there with 400 whp Honda Civics.

However, it is as quick or quicker in 0-60 and 1/4 mile than most of the 60's cars in stock form. These days they have upgraded engines and better tires, etc, and can probably toast me. But bone stock, with the original tires, even Verm's 427 Corvette would have trouble matching the times of a stock WRX or M3. Lazs' cars are far from stock though. Even if the Elkie wasn't faster than my car, it would be more entertaining because of the noise and ability to turn rubber into vapor at any legal speed.

Mini D · « **Reply #85 on:** July 28, 2003, 12:29:36 PM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Agreed, but it depends on your usage of said vehicle. I wouldn't commute in the Big Block 80 miles a day, but the Twisty Turny works fine for that.

Ah... practicality. The ultimate demise of the big block. People really don't need a car that its difficult not to smoke the tires with. They don't want a car that only gets 7mpg. Most people don't like the idea of being able to actually hear the engine... much less have it be loud.

Cars today are a nice comprimise of convenience and capability. Very practical... even for the high performance stuff. They are nearing some aspects of performance from the 60's, but there's some things that will just be out of reach while still maintaining the qualities that most consumers are looking for in cars.

The 60's didn't have that check valve in place. Car companies were upgrading their engines and cars faster than the consumers could keep up. More horsepower and smaller cars... It really did get out of hand. The most important thing is that these cars were being built for the masses... not for the elite. Yet... they'd beat anything the elite car companies could put out. It was the peak of automotive performance and accessability. I haven't seen anything recently that suggest that peak has been beaten since.

MiniD

Ripsnort · « **Reply #86 on:** July 28, 2003, 12:37:18 PM »

Yeah, practicality means one of two things, or both....

You're getting old....

You're married....

funkedup · « **Reply #87 on:** July 28, 2003, 12:40:01 PM »

Here's a link to what I am talking about.
A Motor Trend list of favorite muscle cars with 0-60 and 1/4 mile times.
http://www.spiderweb2000.net/CountryRelaxin/1_10.html
For reference Motor Trend got 5.6 and 14.2 for the WRX.
Motor Trend times for Rip's car are 5.8 and 14.4.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #88 on:** July 28, 2003, 12:49:18 PM »

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Originally posted by funkedup
Here's a link to what I am talking about.
A Motor Trend list of favorite muscle cars with 0-60 and 1/4 mile times.
http://www.spiderweb2000.net/CountryRelaxin/1_10.html
For reference Motor Trend got 5.6 and 14.2 for the WRX.
Motor Trend times for Rip's car are 5.8 and 14.4.

Ahhh, the old Gullwing Mercedes...those are very rare. Cool link *thanks Funked.

(* for Nash's view)

Mini D · « **Reply #89 on:** July 28, 2003, 01:02:48 PM »

Thanks for the link FunkedUp... I was looking for something like that. I'm amazed there isn't a better database for original 1/4 mile times.

The main thing to notice... all the light weight big blocks were pretty much below 14 seconds. Camaro, Buick G/S, Olds Cutlas (hearst and 442). Those were times ran back then. On the older tires. Today, they'd be faster with a new set of rubber.

Those were great cars, but they weren't the most remarkable of the era. For instance... I've seen quite a few references to 65 Cobras doing 0-60 in the mid 3 second range (they have 5.6 for the 66).

It really is simple: Exotics:High end Porsche/Corvette(Not really exotics):Big Blocks:The rest

By high end I'm talking the turbos and the ZR-1 types.

Also... the Cobras, Camaros, Mustangs, Corvettes and a few others were very impressive on the tracks. Once again... with older rubber. People just don't believe this is the case... but then this thread has gone nearly 100 posts now.. hasn't it?

MiniD