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Offline midnight Target

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« on: July 29, 2003, 12:15:53 PM »
I have been kinda neutral on this one for a while, but I decided that this recall is just plane STUPID.

The only thing wrong with California (OK one of the main things) is the economy. Is this Gray Davis' fault?

I don't think so. I believe a recall based on political grounds or unpopularity is a dangerous move. Seems like the reps want a do-over, kinda like the dems did in Florida a while back. Only this time it's gonna happen.

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« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2003, 12:24:58 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2003, 12:25:32 PM »
If it was only the Republicans who wanted him out there would be no recall.  He is so unpopular across the state he's brought this on himself.

The economy is not California's only problem.  The California government's huge deficit was caused by gross over spending which was presided over by Davis.

Whoever takes over, Rep or Dem, will have a very unpleasant job ahead.

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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2003, 12:30:17 PM »
Of cource the economy is the fault of the gvt and the dems.

Look at it...California has the highest minimum wage, utility rates, worker's compensation premiums, overtime restrictions, air quality requirements, and sales tax in the US.


In the public sector, every government agency is facing big job cuts because of the budget mess. Meanwhile, in the private sector, jobs are being lost left and right. And there is nothing strange with that, because given a choise, why would any sane company want to open a business in a state with such a punishing environment for private workers? Where would any corporate CEO look first when seeking to close plants due to high costs?

You have to create the wealth first before you bicker about sharing it. The Democrats frequently forget this inconvenient little detail.

The Democrats control 60% of the California Assembly and 60% of the Senate. They also hold all eight state elected offices. They've dominated the legislature forever, and have held the Governer's mansion for 5 years. In that time they have so botched the economy that sales tax revenue in San Francisco has fallen 50% in two years.

I'll repeat. California has the highest level of sales tax, the highest minimum wage, the most restrictive overtime rules, the highest electric rates, the largest budget deficit, the worst bond rating, and the highest worker's compensation premiums in the US. At some companies, worker's comp exceeds payroll as an expense. Talk about encouraging layoffs and discouraging employment.

If you're a business owner, what part of this is good news? How would this encourage you to expand your business? And without business expansion, how are tax revenues generated? How is unemployment brought down?

(California is a bit like Sweden in the way they are committing economical suicide)

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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2003, 12:40:43 PM »
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Blame Bush


LOL

and if Goron woulda won in 2000, everything in CA would be A-OK today?


blame bush, yep typical lib cry - blame anybody but me - pls
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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2003, 12:44:03 PM »
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LOL

and if Goron woulda won in 2000, everything in CA would be A-OK today?


blame bush, yep typical lib cry - blame anybody but me - pls


Is that your best argument? An alternate reality?
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Re: The Recall in California
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2003, 12:50:01 PM »
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Originally posted by midnight Target
I have been kinda neutral on this one for a while, but I decided that this recall is just plane STUPID.

The only thing wrong with California (OK one of the main things) is the economy. Is this Gray Davis' fault?

I don't think so. I believe a recall based on political grounds or unpopularity is a dangerous move. Seems like the reps want a do-over, kinda like the dems did in Florida a while back. Only this time it's gonna happen.


My only question is why anyone would want the job right now.

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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2003, 12:52:29 PM »
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Is that your best argument? An alternate reality?


well we are talkin CA, its about as "alternate" a reality as one can get :)

you tell bush to take the blame for everything wrong with the country as he is in charge, least you can do is ask the same of ur gov who is suppose to be in charge of/responsible for his state

funny to see if they stick a Republican in his place
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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2003, 12:53:02 PM »
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My only question is why anyone would want the job right now.


Well, whoever gets the job, if they pull CA out of its tailspin, they'll have a good shot at making President some day (And, it'll probably take a Repub to pull em out)

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« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2003, 12:57:10 PM »
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Blame Bush




Man you guys are too much.:)

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« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2003, 12:59:04 PM »
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Man you guys are too much.:)
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California is about pointing the finger at someone else and not taking personal responsibility for the soup they helped boil.  "Center of the Universe" syndrome so predominent in the Californian arrogance.

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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2003, 01:02:51 PM »
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"Center of the Universe" syndrome so predominent in the Californian arrogance.


Not as keenly developed as Texas, I think. :D
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« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2003, 01:10:15 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2003, 01:11:04 PM »
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Not as keenly developed as Texas, I think. :D


Where do you think they learned it?  In Montana, you don't want to drive at night with either CA or Texas plates on your car, unless you're going REAL fast.

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« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2003, 01:11:39 PM »
Thats because Texas realy is the center,therefore our view is perfectly valid :)