Author Topic: Ct Set-up For Sept. 26, 2003 (Read 1503 times)

Jester · « **on:** September 25, 2003, 07:46:34 PM »

THUNDER OVER THE REICH

This scenario represents the first really large raids deep into Germany by the Allies in Early 1943. Decent long range fighters where just starting to become availalble for the Allies to make
this possible.

ALLIES: (KNIGHTS)
P-38L
P-47D-11
P-51B
Mosquito
Lancaster
B-17
B-26
A-20G
C-47
M's
Ostie
Panzer IV

AXIS: (BISHOPS)
ME-109F
ME-109G-2
ME-109G-6
FW-190A5
ME-110G
C.202
C.205
JU-88
C-47
M's
Ostie
Panzer IV

SETTINGS:
Map: Big Week
Fuel Burn: 1.0
Ack Setting: .7 (CT Norm)
Downtimes:
Flak: 25 minutes
Hangars: 20 minutes
All Other Structures: 30 minutes
Troops to capture: 15 Troops
Radar: full friendly, 500 ft height - dot 25/bar 50

NOTES:
1. FIGHTER FIELDS IN ENGLAND ARE A1 - A6
BOMBER FIELDS IN ENGLAND ARE A7 - A15
2. Italian planes (C.202 & C.205) are available only from A27.
3. Fuel Burn has been increased to 1.3 - keep a sharp eye on your fuel if you want to get home. Remember the drop tanks!
4. All Heavy Bombers will be based in England. Only A-20, Mosquito & JU-88 bombers will be available from captured fields.
5. It will take 15 TROOPS to cature a field or base.
6. As this scenario represents the Strategic Bombing campaign deep into Germany none of the short range fighters like the Spitfire will be available.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #1 on:** September 25, 2003, 09:52:10 PM »

Nix P51B and then its fine - that one only entered action in very late 43.

eskimo2 · « **Reply #2 on:** September 25, 2003, 10:04:47 PM »

WHAAAAA!!!!

Where are the Spitfires!?

How dare you not give the Allies Spitfires!

Spitfires fought in every battle, (heck every dogfight for that matter), in the ETO

This sucks! (Grumble grumble)

Seriously, this sounds like a Great Match.

Looking forward to it.

eskimo

MajorDay · « **Reply #3 on:** September 25, 2003, 10:07:04 PM »

Sweet! Im going love P38, P51, and P47

Löwe · « **Reply #4 on:** September 25, 2003, 10:11:20 PM »

Looks good Jester.

Puudeli · « **Reply #5 on:** September 26, 2003, 04:28:46 AM »

Yea looks good but, give us 190-A8 so we can have atleast one bomber interceptor.

scJazz · « **Reply #6 on:** September 26, 2003, 05:59:51 AM »

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4. As this scenario represents the Strategic Bombing campaign deep into Germany none of the short range fighters like the Spitfire will be available.

Ummm, the Spit 9 has a whole whopping 6 minutes less fuel then the Mossie which you included. Have to assume it is late in war since P51B is also included.

Puudeli · « **Reply #7 on:** September 26, 2003, 06:10:54 AM »

Sssssssh jazz.

Puudeli · « **Reply #8 on:** September 26, 2003, 08:18:42 AM »

Where is it??!?!!
Its 4pm already....cmon i want my g6!

Eagler · « **Reply #9 on:** September 26, 2003, 08:27:13 AM »

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Originally posted by MajorDay
Sweet! Im going love P38, P51, and P47

me too - they make nice explosions

Jester · « **Reply #10 on:** September 26, 2003, 09:01:41 AM »

Sorry for the delay in putting up the scenario - late night duty at the Fire House.

o0Stream140o · « **Reply #11 on:** September 26, 2003, 11:21:01 AM »

Just curious Jester to why the 202 and 205 are in this set up? Did they have the Italian Air Force over Germany then? Thought they were mostly limited to the Med. Or is just a balance thing? I am sure that the comments will come after this post...

Jester · « **Reply #12 on:** September 26, 2003, 11:22:27 AM »

AIRCRAFT:

SPITFIRE: It was left out because this scenario represents the deep bombing raids into Germany. Spitfires in real life did not have the range to fly deep into Germany. Usually they escorted out as far as the coast of France then picked the bomber stream back up as it came home. Long range stuff was left to Pony's, Juggs & Lightnings.

P-51B MUSTANG: I have added this as kind of "Freeby" for the British squad players for not including the Spit.

C.202 & 205: I have added these also for the Axis as I forgot Italy was also on this map. However they are available only from on field - A27.

FW-190A8: I have left this out as this version of the 190 didn't start production untill Dec. 1943 much less squadron service. I may enable it the last couple days to represent it coming on line.

P-38L LIGHTNING: This version is actually a 1944 bird also but I included it as it is the only Lighting we got. The J version would have been better to model - then we could use it for both PTO & ETO set-ups.

P-47D-11 THUNDERBOLT: I just enabled this version because of the time of my set up the "D" models werent even in combat yet. They were still flying the "C" model Juggs.

Compromises, Compromises....(sigh). Maybe one day we will have a better flock of a/c models to choose from.

Batz · « **Reply #13 on:** September 26, 2003, 11:36:59 AM »

Jester I ran this setup myself.

The factory complexes have no small aaa so you may want to tweak the fuel mod so that the fighters wont be able to make it deep into germany and then low level rape the structures down.

There really arent a lot of fields so it may be a good idea to get rid of base capture. If the allies gain ground they will get close to the factories and just be able to fly in lo and kill them all.

If you want this to be about "bombing and bombers" then you will need to disable field capture and adjust the fuel mod accordingly.

Karnak · « **Reply #14 on:** September 26, 2003, 12:12:52 PM »

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Originally posted by scJazz
Ummm, the Spit 9 has a whole whopping 6 minutes less fuel then the Mossie which you included. Have to assume it is late in war since P51B is also included.

That is only due to a bug in AH. Mossie Mk VIs had 1200 miles range on internal and 1800 miles with external fuel. More than twice the Spitfires range. In AH the Mossie's fuel consumption is twice or more than it should be.