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Offline HornetUK

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bomb aiming ?????????
« on: April 12, 2013, 06:37:31 PM »
 :furious  :bhead Ok now call me stupid, but could someone help me in how to calculate my bomb drop point with the new wind system put in the game.

I understand if the wind is blowing one way you have to compensate for it but what about all these wind direction and if I was trying to hit a ammo bunker at a base at 30000ft ?  :joystick:
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Re: bomb aiming ?????????
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2013, 06:41:25 PM »
Ah sorry have i put the topic in the wrong place ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh  :headscratch:
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Re: bomb aiming ?????????
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2013, 06:44:43 PM »
HiTech said bombsight will compensate.

Now comes the interestign part: I did a 22k Lanc run in LW and it did not compensate at all, my bombs falling waaaaayyyyy off.
But when I duplicated the wind settings offline and did a high alt B-29 test run, all my bombs did indeed hit the target


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Re: bomb aiming ?????????
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2013, 06:48:05 PM »
i dropped from 18000ft and mine was way off never been so far off infact!!!!

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Re: bomb aiming ?????????
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2013, 07:39:09 PM »
what I don't understand is why have wind if the bombsite compensates anyway :headscratch:

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« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2013, 07:41:01 PM »
what I don't understand is why have wind if the bombsite compensates anyway :headscratch:

It would still impact flying. In case of bombers for example lining up on your targets.
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Re: bomb aiming ?????????
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2013, 08:21:26 PM »
Cant hit hangars from mid teens....even calibrating RIGHT up until the drop...they were missing by half the length of the base. More disturbing was losing a Lanc formation to 2 passes of a -4 doing lame dead 6 attacks
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« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2013, 08:38:32 PM »
tried 26's at 10k...calibrated right up until I dropped eggs (1k). missed by half the width of the base
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Re: bomb aiming ?????????
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2013, 08:41:47 PM »
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« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2013, 08:48:50 PM »
Net effect will be no/few bombers,(other than tards hitting point-rich targets like cities, refineries, etc) like some years ago when they changed the way calibration works, and it became impossible to hit anything smaller than an area code. People adjust, I suppose
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« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2013, 08:56:28 PM »
Bomb aiming is WAY off.   OK - I figured out the ground speed calibration, but I just picked 6 off a B-17 at 12K on a hanger with the speeds exactly matched and the crosshairs going over the hanger and didn't even get close. 
Must be a hurricane down there I guess....   :huh

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« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2013, 09:20:08 PM »
If you look at the brutal wind patterns, you'll see why. It's encouraging you to drop from below 10k, which isn't survivable. Mebbe cookies aren't as affected
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Re: bomb aiming ?????????
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2013, 10:54:25 PM »
Possibly an error?  I heard Hitech state that the bombsite will compensate, but Snail shows that is does not in the MA, but does offline.

I really like the idea of having wind when I'm flying air to air.  I have mixed feeling about ground attack though.  I am concerned that (even if the bombsight compensates) that it will reduce the effectiveness of level bombing and encourage jabo attacks.

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« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2013, 10:58:12 PM »
They prolly tweak it on monday, see no point in flying buffs before then--winds blowing all 4 directions at various alt, various speeds... Einstein couldn't calculate that, lol. NEAT effect in fighter tho...even jug gets thrown around the sky when it hits 12k
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Re: bomb aiming ?????????
« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2013, 11:41:48 PM »
   :rofl    Listen to yourselves!  Are you guys for real???   :ahand

You mean to say that just because you cant drop a dumb bomb in to the air vent on the top of a hanger that the bombing in AH is ruined?  That bombing is worthless???  SERIOUSLY???   :bhead

You mean to say that having to gauge a wee bit of wind drift is going to stop you from dropping hangers, etc?  How do you guys plan ahead to drop on CV's? or turning CV's?  Or moving gv's? C'mon fellas, grow a pair and understand that there may be a ever so small learning curve to learn the new system, but damn it isn't like there isn't any of you vets can't learn, adapt, and over come.  Wow.  Suck it up, cupcake.  You've been spoon fed long enough.  :lol

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