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Offline Sixpence

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« Reply #90 on: November 08, 2003, 11:59:41 AM »
I'm not for killing babies either. Go figure.
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« Reply #91 on: November 08, 2003, 03:46:23 PM »
bring on the old faithful wire hanger :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

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« Reply #92 on: November 08, 2003, 09:46:31 PM »
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Originally posted by Sixpence
Ok JBA, where does it say 60% on all abortions? And I see those sites would have no bias.

"To be perfectly honest, I firmly believe that any single poll must be taken with a grain of salt. " That from your link.

Date Pro-choice Pro-life Mixed/neither
2000-JUL 50% 40% 4%
2000-MAR 48 43 2
1999-APR 48 42 3
1998-JAN 48 45 3
1997-AUG 47 44 3
1996-MAR 56 37 5
1995-SEP 56 33 5

Which poll do we go by, oh, I know, the one poll in the last twenty years that you like.


since when did Gallup and Zogy  become Bias

GALLUP POLL SAYS 70% IN FAVOUR OF PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION BAN
WASHINGTON, February 17, 2003 (LifeSiteNews.com) - With a bill to ban partial birth abortion introduced last week, the National Right to Life has released the results of a Gallup poll on the procedure.

The January 2003 Gallup poll found that 70% favoured and 25% opposed "a law that would make it illegal to perform a specific abortion procedure conducted in the last six months of pregnancy known as 'partial birth abortion,' except in cases necessary to save the life of the mother."

NRLC warns however that some lawmakers who oppose the bill tell their constituents that they favour competing measures to restrict "late-term" abortions. The bills to which they refer are "phony bans" that are riddled with gaping exclusions and loopholes.


Zogby conducted a poll of 1,016 "likely voters" to determine "what is the top issue facing the country [U.S.] today." They found that 34.8% of adults considered education, healthcare, or crime/drugs/violence to be the most serious issue. Abortion access was not a high priority concern for American adults. The pollsters lumped those who consider abortion to be the top issue, with those who consider "social issues, welfare, poverty" as the most important issues. The total for all four was only 3.6%. The margin of error is approximately 3.2 percentage points.
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« Reply #93 on: November 09, 2003, 09:40:49 PM »
It's like killing babies I guess...



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« Reply #94 on: November 09, 2003, 10:48:19 PM »
*simply walks away*

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« Reply #95 on: February 04, 2004, 02:38:04 PM »
"Could one of you pro-choice folks please explain to me why the new partial birth abortion ban bill is bad?

If it contains provisions to allow this procedure to be performed to save the life of the mother, then why can't it be banned for all other situations? "

Based on the description of how this is done, at what point is the life of the mother in danger.  Hell, give the kid a tug and he is born and she is off to recovery.

This process in infanticide.  Plain and simple.  No  grey area here.
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« Reply #96 on: February 04, 2004, 02:44:17 PM »
Holy ****!  I ignored this thread the first time around.  Texace I'm so sorry to hear that.  I'd strangle those two bastards if I had the chance.

Any updates on the situation?
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« Reply #97 on: February 04, 2004, 04:55:03 PM »
I just wonder how we could have had a civil discussion about one of the most barbaric "medical" procedures ever invented.

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« Reply #98 on: February 04, 2004, 05:11:04 PM »
I'm sort of torn on this issue.


I believe that all children who have a chance at life (I.E. no incredibly crippling diseases) should have just that.  A chance.

But then again, It's not my body.  




However, partial Birth Abortions is one of the most disgusting medical acts ever.  Should be banned world wide.
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« Reply #99 on: February 04, 2004, 05:16:41 PM »
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« Reply #100 on: February 04, 2004, 06:19:50 PM »
Good God Its simple.
If the child in question is going to be born with over whelming birth defects and the PARENTS choose to terminate the pregnancy that should be there right.

As a form of birth controll i would have to say no HELL NO.
And it really chaps my arse to hear a womans right to choose.

yeah she had a right to choose not to get pregnate in the first place!!

I would hope there would be none amonge us that would even pretend to tell a young couple what to do with there severly
deformed or challenged fetuse.

It trully would be a hellish choice for them to make but theres and theres alone not uncle sam!!
Unless uncle sam is going to step up and pay for all the specialized care and hospital care this child will need the rest of its life.

But on the other hand lets say little 17 year old bambi is getting knocked up by biff the football star and all of a sudden OH MY GOD I need an abortion.

EEEHHHHH wrong i dont think she should be able to just walk in the abortion clinic and terminate a life just like that.

She should have to carry the child to term then put it up for adoption to a caring couple that will love and nuture the child.

At some point people in the world are going to have to take responsability for there actions.

You wanna play well guess what you might have to PAY!!

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« Reply #101 on: February 04, 2004, 07:22:12 PM »
Many people don't know what a Partial Birth Abortion is.  They just know that the phrase is bad.
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« Reply #102 on: February 04, 2004, 07:49:51 PM »
A partial birth abortion is just about what it sounds like.
The baby Is pretty well formed has all its toes and fingers.
Indeed it looks like you quessed it a BABY cause It Is a BABY.

Im not sure but I think you can tell the sex of the BABY as well.
An ugly procedure for everyone envolved.

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« Reply #103 on: February 04, 2004, 07:59:58 PM »
The baby is actually born during a Partial Birth Abortion.


The only difference between a PBA and Murder is the fact that the umbilical cord is still attached.


Anyway, they take a wierd looking scissor apparatus, shove it into the brain stem, then open it up.  




Hence why i object to PBA's.
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« Reply #104 on: February 04, 2004, 08:02:06 PM »
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
The baby is actually born during a Partial Birth Abortion.


The only difference between a PBA and Murder is the fact that the umbilical cord is still attached.


Anyway, they take a wierd looking scissor apparatus, shove it into the brain stem, then open it up.  




Hence why i object to PBA's.


Rgr that I was just trying to not make anyone puke.