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« Reply #75 on: December 07, 2001, 08:11:00 AM »
That's not a very good link, but I'll give you a fer instance. I'm in the Autobody business. We repair all types of late-model wrecks. We've repaired many sport-utes. We had a late model Land Rover Discovery in here recently hit in the front. I was really surprised at the sorry quality of just about everything. Interior Trim, Body panel fit and finish is a joke. It's a sport-ute you say? I don't care, everybody elses body panels fit these days. The Toyota Land Cruiser and many US models have got it all over any Land Rover. They're like a 4-wheel drive version of an 80's Jaguar.

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« Reply #76 on: December 07, 2001, 08:13:00 AM »
Sheesh... A Calloway corvette or roush or saleen mustang are still half the price of the exotics and will give every one of em a run for their money if not outright trounce em.  

Dino.. Austin Healey's are great cars... Have a 100 4.   You do have to make several "slight" modifications to them tho.
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« Reply #77 on: December 07, 2001, 08:49:00 AM »
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That's not a very good link, but I'll give you a fer instance. I'm in the Autobody business. We repair all types of late-model wrecks. We've repaired many sport-utes. We had a late model Land Rover Discovery in here recently hit in the front. I was really surprised at the sorry quality of just about everything. Interior Trim, Body panel fit and finish is a joke. It's a sport-ute you say? I don't care, everybody elses body panels fit these days. The Toyota Land Cruiser and many US models have got it all over any Land Rover. They're like a 4-wheel drive version of an 80's Jaguar.


Why don't we talk about the Range Rover...old chap?   ;)

Also, why do most police forces in the world use a land rover? Aha! A Land Rover isn't built for comfort...it's built for ruggedness. It leaks when it rains? Ah diddums! The makers of Land Rover expected their clients to be wearing some cammo and wellys while driving their rugged machine not a tuxedo!
HBlair, have you thought that maybe the panels wouldn't fit because the chasis maybe needed to be straightened on a jig? Just maybe...

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« Reply #78 on: December 07, 2001, 09:57:00 AM »
FDSS, just curious, is there anything about which you are not an expert? HBlair works in the family business, as in he grew up doing what he is doing now. I'm sure he thought of alignment problems on a wreck...

You must be at least 50 years-old, given the huge depth of experiences you have.   :p

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« Reply #79 on: December 07, 2001, 10:01:00 AM »
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HBlair, have you thought that maybe the panels wouldn't fit because the chasis maybe needed to be straightened on a jig? Just maybe...

Jig? lol. Get with the program. Bench-type racks are the way to go these days. And yeah the Land Dog was within specs, the sheet metal just isn't stamped well. Are the Discovery's engines that go bad all the time "rugged"?   :)

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« Reply #80 on: December 07, 2001, 10:13:00 AM »
Yep, the brits took a perfectly good American V8, The '63 215 inch Buick, and turned it into a piece of crap land rover motor.
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« Reply #81 on: December 07, 2001, 12:19:00 PM »
I know everything, cos I'm the king of the world!  :cool:
Funny how you yanks are ignoring the issue...can you say Range Rover?
If you had to choose between a Jeep Grand Cherokee or a Range Rover, which one would it be?
Yep, everyone would choose the Range. Status symbol, build quality, off-road ability nothing beats it. ADMIT IT!

Fact remains that you Americans buy our European cars, but apart from one or two models, we don't really have yankmobils over here.  :p

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« Reply #82 on: December 07, 2001, 12:24:00 PM »
You have Jaguars don't you?

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« Reply #83 on: December 08, 2001, 09:34:00 AM »
LOL hblair.  They also pay double for corvettes and Harleys cause they feel that they deserve to be punished by their governments.   Heck, we can buy one of their cars cheaper than they can.
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« Reply #84 on: December 08, 2001, 10:07:00 AM »
Tyler Durden says:

Your not your job.
Your not how much money you have in your walet.
Your not your shreckin kahkis.
Your not a unuiqe and individual snowflake.

This has been a PSA from Tyler Durden.

"the more you know"
There must also be a flyable computer available for Nefarious to do FSO. So he doesn't keep talking about it for eight and a half hours on Friday night!

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« Reply #85 on: December 08, 2001, 10:50:00 AM »
You know why the Brits dont make computers?


They couldn't figure out how to make them leak oil.

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« Reply #86 on: December 08, 2001, 11:55:00 AM »
Got a really, really rich brother-in-law. He never hunted till he "joined" the family but he caught it bad and now he's a devout pheasant chaser.

Of course, being rich, nothing would do except that he dress, equip and shoot "like an English Gentleman". Green wellies, side-by-side and of course... a Range Rover.

Actually, two of them. He had the full-size one and the Defender 90 which is the bare-bones kind of military style.

(He got the Labrador Retriever too... but at least that's one English "imported" export that actually lives up to its billing and can do its job.)

Well, in the Midwest you aren't walking in a bog all the time, so the wellies just make your feet sweat; they don't breathe like a Gore-Tex boot. Since it gets truly cold on the Great Plains in winter, your feet are soon frigid. He dumped the wellies for a good Cabela's Gore-Tex boot.

Side-by-side? Nice gun. Didn't fit him, never could hit anything with it, but, hey, it looked cool. Finally got tired of the ribbing he was taking and put it in the closet. He shoots a Remington 11-87 REAL WELL though.. it fits him.

Range Rover? Well, we do family hunts. Four to six gunners and 3-4 Labs. I had an old Chevy Suburban 4x4 and he had his Range Rover.... well, he had it when it wasn't in the shop for engine, transimission, electrical or heater/AC repairs.

He drove the Defender one hunting season. Barely held two people, one dog. Was so loud at speed that you couldn't carry on a conversation or hear a radio. Rode like a cement wagon. He dumped that off in a trade for his wife's BMW at the end of the season.

Anyway, all of us (people, dogs, guns and lunch) could load into the Suburban and go hunting.

Or, he could take himself and ONE other gunner and ONE lab (because putting a kennel in a RR requires folding down the back seat and sticking it in sideways). Only one kennel would fit and that one wiped out the back seat.

He always took the RR anyway, I guess to impress the farmers we asked for permission to hunt.   :rolleyes: I think a lot of our turndowns were because of that RR. In short, in all kinds of weather, he never went anywhere the old Suburban couldn't follow... or lead.

He finally got that crap out of his system. I think it was after the last $1000 repair to the RR air conditioner that still blew spit-warm air at you after it was fixed. Not a good deal when you're driving to your big meeting in your $1000 suit and it's 110 degrees in Nebraska during the summer.  ;)

Anyway, his last two vehicles have been full-house 4x4 Suburbans. They work. Well. Room for all the hunters, dogs and guns. They're half the price of the RR's.

To his credit, proud as he is, he admits both the RR's were piss-poor vehicles.

But hey... RR's impress some people.

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« Reply #87 on: December 08, 2001, 12:13:00 PM »
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Originally posted by FlyingDuckSittingSwan:
I know everything, cos I'm the king of the world!   :cool:
Funny how you yanks are ignoring the issue...can you say Range Rover?
If you had to choose between a Jeep Grand Cherokee or a Range Rover, which one would it be?
Yep, everyone would choose the Range. Status symbol, build quality, off-road ability nothing beats it. ADMIT IT!

Fact remains that you Americans buy our European cars, but apart from one or two models, we don't really have yankmobils over here.   :p
Neither they are both a piece of crap.  And to answer your next question who has cheaper gas prices?   ;)

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« Reply #88 on: December 08, 2001, 01:31:00 PM »
I don't think you guys are getting the whole picture.
For one thing, Toad, the Defender 90 is not a Range Rover, but rather a Land Rover. BIG difference! The Range Rover is the plush, expensive, big, off-roader. If you have ever driven inside a Range Rover, you'll find it's quiet and refined and very plush with supple leather (not the cheap imitation leather you find on Cadilacs) hand stitched and REAL, yes REAL wood (from trees, not the plastic type found on your cadilacs) panneling. It also starts from 40,000 pounds (60,000 dollars for you people) and goes anywhere up to over 100,000 dollars easy.  :cool:

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« Reply #89 on: December 08, 2001, 01:42:00 PM »
Used to have a ex/navy 6x6 duece and a half, on the road in MA, for cordwood/dockspile  business. Talk about some fun on the streets.

Would carry most anything, go most anywhere.  :cool: