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Offline Gunslinger

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« on: November 16, 2003, 03:29:37 AM »
yet another perfect example of democrat hypocrisy!

They support civil rights and equal oppertunity ONLY if you support THEIR views

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/11/14/miller.lynching/index.html

AND HE"S A DEMOCRAT


Democratic senator under fire for 'lynching' comment
Miller stands by remark
Friday, November 14, 2003 Posted: 5:45 PM EST (2245 GMT)


 
Sen. Zell Miller, D-Georgia, makes a point during a recent talk-show appearance.

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Sen. Zell Miller of Georgia came under fire Friday from civil rights activists who demanded an apology from the conservative Democrat after he equated his party's opposition to the nomination of a conservative African-American judge to a lynching.

Miller -- who has already rankled Democrats by endorsing President Bush for re-election -- refused to apologize.

"Either Senator Miller has conveniently forgotten a frightening period of American history, or he is willfully demeaning all those African-Americans who were hung from trees throughout the period of racial segregation in the South," said Wade Henderson, the director of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights.

Henderson and others were reacting to comments made by Miller on the Senate floor around 2 a.m Friday, when he blasted Democrats for blocking the nomination of California Supreme Court Justice Janice Rogers Brown to the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals.

Miller was taking part in a marathon debate in the Senate where Republicans criticized Democrats for blocking some of President Bush's judicial nominees and Republicans blasted the administration's economic policies. Miller, who has often broken ranks with his party leaders, supports GOP efforts to end the filibusters of the judicial nominees.

Brown is the daughter of an Alabama sharecropper who entered the law field after being inspired by lawyers during the civil rights movement.

"The Democrats in this chamber refuse to stand and let her do it. They're standing in the doorway, and they've got a sign: Conservative African-American women need not apply. And if you have the temerity to do so your reputation will be shattered and your dignity will be shredded. Gal, you will be lynched," Miller said.

-RIGHT ON

Henderson then called on Miller, the former governor of Georgia, to apologize -- a call that was echoed by Democratic Minority Leader Tom Daschle of South Dakota.

"I was offended. I think it was unfortunate," Daschle said. "I think those within the civil rights leadership who have commented and have asked for an apology are right."

Henderson said, "Senator Zell Miller's comment equating opposition to the nomination of Janice Rogers Brown to a lynching is despicable on its face."

-whats despicable is you not approving her cause she's a republican

Miller refused to back down from his comment, releasing a statement later in the day saying he is "not the first to use this analogy." He said African-American columnist Thomas Sowell "first used it" in a column on October 24, and "I think it sums up the situation accurately."

-its ok if a black guy says it but if your white and you go against the democrats your despicable, neanderthal, neo-nazy...pick one i dont care

"The tragedy here does not lie in my floor speech this morning. The tragedy lies in what is happening in the United States Senate to this highly qualified conservative, African-American jurist," he said.

"I would put my record on civil rights up against anyone's. As Georgia's governor, I named more African-Americans to state boards than any Georgia governor, and I named more African-Americans to judgeships than all previous governors combined. I named an African-American female as the first to serve on the Georgia Supreme Court. I also appointed an African-American as state Attorney General, the first one in the nation at the time."
« Last Edit: November 16, 2003, 08:50:13 PM by Gunslinger »

Offline SaburoS

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« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2003, 04:10:06 AM »
Tolerance of opposing views is not a common trait whether it be liberal, conservative, democrat, and/or republican people just to name a few groups.
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« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2003, 04:44:59 AM »
SaburoS, you couldn't possibly be more wrong!  Jeeze I hate people with your attitude, it makes me so mad!:mad:
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« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2003, 11:57:44 AM »
SaburoS speaks the truth.  What is it about the truth that makes you so mad, McGroin?

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« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2003, 12:20:40 PM »
Ironic that when a fault of leftists/liberals/democrats is pointed out it is a fault shared by us all and is tolerable. But if it's a fault of the rightists/conservatives/republicans then it's deplorable and must be condemned.
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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2003, 12:43:07 PM »
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
SaburoS, you couldn't possibly be more wrong!  Jeeze I hate people with your attitude, it makes me so mad!:mad:


Am I the only one that caught the sarcasm?

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« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2003, 02:18:17 PM »
Uh, Martlet,  you may have been.  Hehe.  Ooops.  

Nevermind.  

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« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2003, 02:27:09 PM »
AKIron,

Which fault of conservatives is it that is condemned only when they do it?

And which faults of liberals are overlooked?

Certainly, so-called "reverse" discrimination by liberals has been widely discussed and criticized in the media, hasn't it?

Clue us in with some specifics, please.

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By the way, I think equating the Democrat's opposition to 4 judges (vs. 168 approved) to a lynching is pretty ridiculous, no matter who says it.

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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2003, 03:16:58 PM »
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Brown is the daughter of an Alabama sharecropper who entered the law field after being inspired by lawyers during the civil rights movement.


She is utterly qualified and a Liberal dream choice ( if only she was a democrat) for a judicial nominee, except she doesn't conform to their "mold" on abortion and the democrats will stop at nothing to preven even an up or down vote to take place on her nomination. The minority of Democrats is preventing a VOTE to take place on the nomination because I guess they know best what Americans need..... no need for further discussion. How open minded of them.

That is their hypocracy: they always say they are the party that most supports minorities, most blacks vote for them, and this is how they treat a completetly qualified African American up for nomination.

They have done the same thing to a perfectly upstanding and qualified hispanic nominee.

When will minorities realise that the democrats just use them and take them, and their expected loyal votes for granted

Where is Jesse Jackson now? Seems a perfect chance for him to decry this case? Yet since it's a black republican, Jesse stays silent.

Hypocrites.
« Last Edit: November 16, 2003, 03:20:25 PM by NUKE »

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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2003, 03:28:01 PM »
Here is what Ted Kennedy, Liberal dream-boat, had to say about the nominees..... 2 of which are minorities, ALL of which are very respected and qualified professionals:

Ted calls them "Neaderthals"

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"What has not ended is the resolution and the determination of the members of the United States Senate to continue to resist any Neanderthal that is nominated by this president of the United States for any court, federal court in the United States."

How "open-minded"

Funny how only 3 papers in the entire country reported this, yet a privat party misspeak by Trent Lott which was far less offesnive cost him his job.

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« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2003, 04:33:07 PM »
while i agree with saburo that these views exist in both parties....I have to say this enrages me because this would be the apidamy (spelling sucks) of what the democrats stand for when it comes to civil rights.  

another example: if it was a republican who made this statement black groups would be screaming for a resignation.  Why are they so critical that a white senator made a comment that a black journalist allready made when they should be wondering why a black WOMAN cant be voted on?

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« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2003, 04:43:43 PM »
I'm still searching for the hypocrisy...
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« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2003, 04:46:36 PM »
NUKE you say so many things that are misleading or just plain wrong, it's hard to know where to start, or if it's worth wasting the time, but here goes...

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Just because a candidate for judgeship is black, with a noble life story of rising from tough circumstances, does not make that person a "Liberal dream choice".  There are many Democrats who admire Colin Powell, even though he is a Republican.  

The Democrats have every right to stop someone from becoming a judge whom they feel is a bad choice.  Whether one agrees with those methods or the reasons for the hold, it's legal.  The Republicans did the same with legal (and anonymous) Senatorial holds.

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"...I guess they [the Democrats] know best what Americans need...", you wrote.

All political parties say they know what is best for the country, if you think about it, don't they?  To be honest, I think you wrote your response without ever looking at it again.  You never looked it over to make sure it made sense.  You think you have made a good argument because you sarcastically type, "How, open-minded", or call people hypocrites.

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You wrote that the Democrat's hypocrisy is that though they say they "support minorities", they aren't this time.  You realize that what you're saying is that the Democrats should knee-jerk support all minority candidates (because of their ethnicity), and not consider other issues.  That would be a racist way of selecting whom to support, wouldn't it?

What the Democrats are doing is opposing someone they disapprove of based on his/her opinions, or beliefs, and not his/her race.  Which is how it should be.  Same argument goes for Jesse Jackson: why should he always be expected to support a black candidate?  That would be racist.

Again, I don't think you read your post after you wrote it.

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Perhaps when you wrote this post only 3 papers had picked up the story.  I expect more have already.  It was mentioned on the Sunday morning talk shows.  So to imply that the "liberal" media is ignoring the insult (and it was an isnsult, I agree), is misleading.

Also, what Trent Lott said was that the country would be a lot better off if Strom Thurmond had been elected president running on a segregationist platform.  That seems incredibly more offensive to say that America would have better off with it's own system of Apartheid than calling some people "Neanderthals".  Not a nice thing to say, but there's no comparison with Lott's racist lament.  
     
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« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2003, 05:26:28 PM »
I did read my post and I stand by it MrPluto.

And the deomcrats are blocking someone for their opinions and beliefs....when they are soppossed to be looking at qualifications.

They are blocking a nomination in an unprecidented way. No other time in history has a filibuster been used to prevent a vote for a nomination.

A nomination is supposed to be voted by a simple majority. By filibustering, the minority number of Democrats are requiring a super-majority in order to break the filibuster. That is wrong and probably unconstitutional.

The sole reason for the block of the vote is due to the fact that, no matter how qualified the nominee, the dems DO NOT a pro-lifeer ever having a chance to get a supreme court position. That's it in a nutshell.

Any nominee has a personal opinion about a lot of theings. As long as the nominee is qualified and has a history of ruling based on the law and the constitution, then personal beliefs do not matter.

What the dems are doing is flat out wrong and it will probably come back to bite them.

 btw, I say so many things that are wrong or missleading? Like what? I mostly state my opinions and beliefs.

>edit  when I said "I guess they know best what Americans need..... " I meant that they are deciding the matter themselves, without a vote. They are deciding what is best with no other opion.

What the republicans should do is make the dems have a REAL filibuster....make them do it non-stop until they cant talk any longer no matter how long it takes. Then they will have the vote. I don't understand why the reps wont make the dems conform to a real, true filibuster.
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« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2003, 05:51:23 PM »
overall they are doing what they have a right to do. and after your boys went after a sitting president....


all bets are off and your boys started it.
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