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Offline Tac

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« Reply #45 on: December 06, 2001, 03:49:00 PM »
Jab, yes, thats why I said to give a 38J of F or H.
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Offline Karnak

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« Reply #46 on: December 06, 2001, 05:45:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Kweassa:
The 'diversity' is good when the battle has just begun, then after a while a furball forms.. voila. Spits, La-7s and N1K2s, friend or foe alike.  "There we go again.. the same ol' same ol'..."

Its amazing how people only pute the aircraft they dislike on these lists.

I mean, the #1, 3, and 4 killers in the MA are on Kweassa's list, but for some reason the P-51D, the #2 killer, doesn't make it to his list.

Why is that Kweassa?  Is the P-51D and Kweassa approved aircraft?
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Offline Urchin

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« Reply #47 on: December 06, 2001, 05:48:00 PM »
I know this might sound stupid, especially considering my kill stats against them, but I actually think the best "BnZ plane" is not the La7, but the P51.  

La7 outperforms the P51 by a wide margin, I will concede that point.  La7 also outperforms every single German plane, while the P51 doesn't even come close (every German plane has at least one area where it has an edge on the P51, not so with the La7).

However, for a person that wants to use a fast plane to basically get kills and not dogfight to much, the choice is clear.

The P51 has - Outstanding guns.  They are SOOOO easy to hit with it is absurd.  It messes up my aim royally when I switch between .50 cal planes and LW planes, the ballistics are in a totally different league.

-  Amazing range.  I believe the P51 has more range than any other fighter in the game.  If it doesn't then it is damn close.

-  Awesome visability.  Enough said.

-  Good speed on the deck.  370 mph or so, enough to outrun everything but a Dora, la7, and Tiffie.  

-  Decent turning (if you know how and when to turn).

-  Excellent high altitude performance (20k and up).

The La7 has -

- Nice guns.  The caveat is they have short range (sort of like LW cannons, but I don't think they hit as hard).

-  Itty bitty fuel tank.  About the same as a 109 without a DT.  Climbing to 20k will probably use up 30-40% of your fuel.

-  Horrible visibility.  It is NOT 'good'.. it isn't even 'decent'.  The cockpit layout SUCKS.  It is so hard to see stuff behind you, and the birdcage gets in the way on some views.  

The La7 is a good plane.  It is one of the very few planes that, in my opinion, can nuetralize a "skill" advantage.  However, its performance is balanced by its weaknesses in my opinion.  The P-51 makes for a much better overall plane, especially with a skilled pilot.
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« Reply #48 on: December 06, 2001, 07:16:00 PM »
No Karnak, it's because I don't see a 51 down at 10k minus often. I wouldn't complain about any aircraft when the fight we see is over 15k at least.

 Just stating the facts. We see fights most often at under 10k. What three planes do YOU see the most?


ps) If it makes you feel better, personally, I hate P-51s  :)
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Offline Blue Mako

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« Reply #49 on: December 06, 2001, 07:32:00 PM »
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Originally posted by funkedup:
Rude you listening?    :)

LOL I was scrolling down to post the same thing...

This is another of those "I don't like it because it's better than my plane so I'll whine about it until it get's perked/porked" threads...
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« Reply #50 on: December 06, 2001, 08:38:00 PM »
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The La7 is a good plane. It is one of the very few planes that, in my opinion, can nuetralize a "skill" advantage. However, its performance is balanced by its weaknesses in my opinion. The P-51 makes for a much better overall plane, especially with a skilled pilot.

Now I know why it (La7) works so well for me   :D
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Offline Toad

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« Reply #51 on: December 06, 2001, 11:18:00 PM »
"Perk the LA-7" Guys mostly fly the:

Mandoble - Fw-190D9 (Tour 22 FW-190D9)

Am0n - A6m5B (Tour 22 F6F-5)

Eskimo - (Tour 22 Typhoon F4U-1C)

Pyemia - Spit IX (Tour 22 as Zygote LA-7)

TAC - P-38 (Tour 22 P-38)

Kweassa - Bf-109G10 (Tour 22 Bf-109G10)


That's all the posters I saw saying "perk it".

Interesting, no?
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« Reply #52 on: December 06, 2001, 11:42:00 PM »
It's as intersting as La-7 pilots saying "don't perk it. There is no reason to".

 ps) If La-7 is to be perked, and so is G10 or D9 and 51 to match balance, hey, I'd gladly agree.

 ps2) and as I said, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it if La-7 is not perked. Perk or no, it's up to HT. At least La-7s aren't frustrating to see as C-hogs.
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Offline Am0n

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« Reply #53 on: December 07, 2001, 07:52:00 AM »
Toad if im not mistaken i said if the LA7 was perked there was a hand full of other AC that should be perked before hand.

"I would like to see a light perking on it, 2-3 perks, but if that was the case you would also have to lower the perks of the F4uC becuase the LA7 is a much better AC (besides its lack of ammo).

Theres is hand full of planes that i think should have a light perking on. If you cant go out and score 2-3 perks in the LA7, SpitIX, P51D to make up for spending them, you are a gang bang dork who doesnt need to be flying it, IMO."

interesting isnt it?
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Offline AKSWulfe

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« Reply #54 on: December 07, 2001, 09:30:00 AM »
Cheaply perk the La7, P51D, 109G10, Fw-190D9 and P38L (when a P38J or early model arrives on the scene)...

As is, all the fights are a mix of TnBers (mostly Spitfires) and BnZers (mostly La7s, 190D9s, 109G10s, P51Ds)..

There's already a La5FN, that doesn't get used much because it isn't as fast and doesn't offer 3 cannons.

A P51B which is actually faster between the deck and 15K than the D model.

A 109F4, G2, G6 (take your pick) that will be just as good if the late war speed monsters get perked.

The Fw190A8, or A5 which will also be just as good if the late war models are perked. The 190A8 is a real quick machine and can run like hell on the deck.

I'm saying like 8-10 perk points.

No reason to perk the Spitfire, it just isn't that good.
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« Reply #55 on: December 07, 2001, 04:49:00 PM »
Spit keeps energy like hell, is one of the fastest planes at heigh and after a dive, and has hispanos. Do you want more reasons to perk it? ok, another one, one of the bests vertical performers in the game.
190D9, for example, is clearly inferior to SpitIX at 25k or above.
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Offline Toad

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« Reply #56 on: December 07, 2001, 06:41:00 PM »
<hmmmmmm... mi, mi, mi, mi>

"Perk 'em all!

Perk 'em all!

The large and the fast and the small.

Perk all the Nikkis and C-Hogs in blue,

Perk anything that can shoot back at you!

`cause they're asking to just perk 'em all

As back to their Towers they crawl,

There'll be constant crying

as long as they're dying,

So cheer up, my lads,

Perk 'em all!

Nobody knows if the FM's are true,

So cheer up, my lads,

Perk 'em all!"


 :D


Sorry, these threads always make me want to sing!
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« Reply #57 on: December 07, 2001, 11:01:00 PM »
"190D9, for example, is clearly inferior to SpitIX at 25k or above. "

What more reason for perking a 1942 plane over a 1944 plane could you possibly need?

Whiner.
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« Reply #58 on: December 08, 2001, 08:03:00 AM »
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What more reason for perking a 1942 plane over a 1944 plane could you possibly need?

Whiner.

 

And the hits keep rolling... another good reply.
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« Reply #59 on: December 08, 2001, 09:18:00 AM »
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Originally posted by MANDOBLE:
Spit keeps energy like hell, is one of the fastest planes at heigh and after a dive, and has hispanos. Do you want more reasons to perk it? ok, another one, one of the bests vertical performers in the game.
190D9, for example, is clearly inferior to SpitIX at 25k or above.

Well i see that you are missing sun in spain now .... but do not try tell us that you feel fear from Spit ....    :rolleyes:

[ 12-08-2001: Message edited by: EagleC ]
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