Author Topic: La-7 (Read 3378 times)

MANDOBLE · « **on:** December 05, 2001, 08:25:00 AM »

Hate this plane, I vote for 199 perks per La.

Am0n · « **Reply #1 on:** December 05, 2001, 09:19:00 AM »

cant stand it my self. I think what i hate most about it is how many there are flying around AH.

AcId · « **Reply #2 on:** December 05, 2001, 10:04:00 AM »

Fly it for a while, and you'll see that it has some easily exploitable weaknesses. It is easily beatable when a newbie is on the stick. With someone flying it that understands it, it can be tough to fight, thats when you need to push the envelope of your aircraft. I'm just tired of watching em run

MANDOBLE · « **Reply #3 on:** December 05, 2001, 12:10:00 PM »

ROFLOL AcId, I know very well that plane,
its only weaknesses is the pilot.
With La7 unperked, unperk Ta, f4U4, 262 and Tempest to have some coherence.

Ghosth · « **Reply #4 on:** December 05, 2001, 01:41:00 PM »

There is a HUGE difference between the La7 & the tempest, 262, and even the F4u-4.

If the La7 was leading the pack in kills like the Chawg used to then I'd agree with perking it. (like the chawg, 8 perks or so)

Fact remains la7 is consistantly #4 behind spit, p51 & niki. Perk them FIRST, then we can talk about the la7.

Kratzer · « **Reply #5 on:** December 05, 2001, 01:48:00 PM »

I say we should leave everything about the La7 as it is, only 3x larger.

eskimo2 · « **Reply #6 on:** December 05, 2001, 01:53:00 PM »

I hate it too.

eskimo

Nifty · « **Reply #7 on:** December 05, 2001, 01:55:00 PM »

La7 is average at best above 10,000 ft.

There isn't a plane that isn't perked that needs to be perked.

The Ta152 and F4U-4 prices should be reduced, IMO.

Pongo · « **Reply #8 on:** December 05, 2001, 01:57:00 PM »

Give me hispanos for the b20s or shivaks or what ever and Ill agree to pay 8 perkies for it. You can extend from it in 400 yards..he isnt extended from a 50Cal armed plane for 800 yards.
The range when the enemy is effectivly under your guns is one of the most easily exploited advantages in Air combat. A disparity there is the biggest advantage that pilots in the MA try to gain.

In 2 hours of playing last night I think I saw 4 LA7s 2 dozen spits, a dozen ponys 6 p38s. ....what is the problem again?

Am0n · « **Reply #9 on:** December 05, 2001, 02:05:00 PM »

Wonder why no one ever whines about the spitIX?

because pongo is right, they plague the MA more than anything. I do see a lot of La7s though, more so than what pongo stated. But indeed not as much as the spit.

AKcurly · « **Reply #10 on:** December 05, 2001, 03:34:00 PM »

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Originally posted by MANDOBLE:
Hate this plane, I vote for 199 perks per La.

Mandoble, the la5/7 excels at defense against all planes. But, it's not a very strong offensive plane against 109-G2s or F6Fs (in particular.) If La5/7s are frequenting an area, get in a g2 or f6f and send them packing.

Both rides will beat the la5/7 and they will have no choice but to run. Of course, you aren't going to run them down ...

I might add that no way should a plane be perked if it can handily beaten by a F6F.

curly

[ 12-05-2001: Message edited by: AKcurly ]

humble · « **Reply #11 on:** December 05, 2001, 03:46:00 PM »

Personally I think the La-7 (and La-5) are difficult planes to fly well. Even with a quality pilot they require alot of patience...the gun envelope is pretty small. The big advantage is the ability to control the fight against most planes (109's excluded...G10 especially).

The biggest issue I see is volume....I flew 4 hops last night and was 1-herd all four. Course I'm a handsomehunk for flying into em but such is life.

I'd say the sheer volume of contacts in the MA will make it tough to survive without adapting a bit of a herd mentality. The La-7 is very well suited to this enviornment...as one of the AK's mentioned to me awhile back...me F6 won't be making round trips very often

....0-4 last night ...sigh

Soda · « **Reply #12 on:** December 05, 2001, 03:47:00 PM »

Think of the La7 as a P-51, with short legs, terrible gun range, little ammo, bad views, no drop tanks, no maneuver flaps, with a nasty stall that performs worse at medium/high altitude.

Oh, almost forgot, it's 4 mph faster on the deck than a P51... like that matters. If the La7 is catching a P51 on the deck it's because he had alt on you to start with or you got too slow.

-Soda
The Assassins

blutic · « **Reply #13 on:** December 05, 2001, 04:47:00 PM »

I don't think perk points should apply in the MA at all.
There will always be A "Most popular AC"
When all the pissing and moaning is done, we will all be flying Spits

Blutic

MANDOBLE · « **Reply #14 on:** December 05, 2001, 09:24:00 PM »

La7 doesnt need maneouver flaps, it outmaneouver everything with wings. 400 yards range for guns is more than the maximum limit for any plane with 151/20 or 108 guns. La7 armour beats even F6F5. This plane outaccelerates, outclimbs and outruns even a G10 at our actual arena combat heights. This plane even outzooms the "incredible" Typhoon.

For those talking about the infinity-E SpitIX, I agree, perk it also.

Perk those planes or unperk actual perked ones. For example, F4U4 perked and La7 not is ridiculous, even more in the case of Ta.