Author Topic: Saddam Hussein arrested, breaking news, (Read 11576 times)

Rino · « **Reply #135 on:** December 14, 2003, 05:00:37 PM »

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Originally posted by maslo
well Rino

If you will look at US reasons to attack Iraq before war and compare them to things, whitch they consider to be a victory or success today, you will hardly find some same points.

got my point ?

Yes, I get your point. You don't consider our reasons for
attacking Iraq valid. My point is that your point is not
relevant to me. Saddam's refusal to cooperate and his
support of terrorism were good enough reasons for me.

I am curious as to what benefit having the Hussein regime
remain in power would be to you and your country? I know
from your obvious moral outrage that it couldn't be something
as crass as monetary gain. This brings up the conundrum of
the Iraqi people though, what about their prospects under
Saddam? Or is it the dictator's situation himself which stirs
your passions?

Rino

Fishu · « **Reply #136 on:** December 14, 2003, 05:03:02 PM »

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Originally posted by Rino
Um, how many times do we have to bring up the lesser of
two evils issue? Iran was considered a much bigger threat
to the interests of the US than Iraq at the time.

Politics is a constantly changing scenario, for example
Finland gladly accepted the help of Nazi Germany during
the Continuation War. Something tells me that might not
happen today. It's certainly not something I personally
hold against Finland, options get limited when someone
attacks you.

Let's see.. US approved the use of WMD by Saddam?

Finland and Nazi Germany? I doubt US had already been invaded by Iran, lost territories to Iran and waited for it's next attack..

Threat to US...

AKIron · « **Reply #137 on:** December 14, 2003, 05:06:57 PM »

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Originally posted by Fishu
Let's see.. US approved the use of WMD by Saddam?

Finland and Nazi Germany? I doubt US had already been invaded by Iran, lost territories to Iran and waited for it's next attack..

Threat to US...

You would be wrong. US was in fact invaded by Iran when they took over the US Embassy (US territory) in '78.

Scatcat · « **Reply #138 on:** December 14, 2003, 05:08:18 PM »

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Originally posted by maslo
your squadies are flying over territory of other country and their thinking is nice example of "green brain" thinking

fact that you dont care about WMD is another nice example, that propaganda is running well.
http://english.pravda.ru/diplomatic/2001/11/09/20453.html
http://usinfo.state.gov/regional/nea/iraq/press/0306blckwl.htm
http://www.voice4change.org/stories/showstory.asp?file=030228~to.asp
http://www.backwoodshome.com/columns/duffy030219.html

well according to these links, who did consider kill or judge Sadam to be a priority or success before war ?

do you have any pre war post, whitch say, that you are going there to secure people and you realy dont care about relations between terrorist and SH or WMD ?

if you have, post it please i couldnt find any

thx

Its a personal thing you putz. I don't care what the reasons my gov. went to get him. I am just glad we did. We finally have a CINC with a backbone. ~~GWB!~~

maslo · « **Reply #139 on:** December 14, 2003, 05:11:05 PM »

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Originally posted by AKIron
You would be wrong. US was in fact invaded by Iran when they took over the US Embassy (US territory) in '78.

do you mean that mission, when US soldiers got lost somewhere in iran and they were glad to make it home w/o seen Tehran ?

AKIron · « **Reply #140 on:** December 14, 2003, 05:12:06 PM »

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Originally posted by maslo
do you mean that mission, when US soldiers got lost somewhere in iran and they were glad to make it home w/o seen Tehran ?

What can I say, our CIC was a Democrat.

Toad · « **Reply #141 on:** December 14, 2003, 05:16:55 PM »

Yeah, the US military has always been overrated. Just ask around; anyone can tell you we're just paper tigers.

maslo · « **Reply #142 on:** December 14, 2003, 05:17:27 PM »

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Originally posted by Scatcat
Its a personal thing you putz. I don't care what the reasons my gov. went to get him. I am just glad we did. We finally have a CINC with a backbone. ~~GWB!~~

if you were read these links, you would note, that get SH wasnt nor primary nor secondary goal ...... at all it wasnt even reason for invasion

reason were WMD, Terrorism...
WMD werent found, Terrorism increased
so basicaly you are realy extreme successfully after this capture ... coz its probably the first good thing, whitch you have done in ME

question is if attack on US will grow, coz they already dont need you
or if they will stop.... (it never happen in history of occupied countries)
according to news that 50% of Iraqi soldiers run away from army, fun is not over yet
assimilation of people doesnt go that well does it ? Actualy does these poor girls still wear viels ?

AKIron · « **Reply #143 on:** December 14, 2003, 05:21:48 PM »

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Originally posted by maslo
question is if attack on US will grow, coz they already dont need you
or if they will stop.... (it never happen in history of occupied countries)

Not true, the US still occupies Germany and Japan, as well as some other previously axis countries and there haven't been any significant attacks there in a long time.

Occupation may not be the best description for our military presence in said countries.

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #144 on:** December 14, 2003, 05:22:43 PM »

Yep and the Czechs stopped resisting the USSR after 1969.

Toad · « **Reply #145 on:** December 14, 2003, 05:25:10 PM »

Well, I think now the question of WMD will at last be answered.

They've got the guy they say was developing/deploying the WMD in hand.

He'll "break" eventually and he'll tell them what he knows. Then there'll be a period while what he has said is checked out and either validated or not.

I'm thinking the 4-6 month range should certainly prove definitive one way or the other.

I don't think that Sad Sack can hold out for much more than a few months, tops. Then they'll need a couple of months to track stuff down.

So, we should have some answers one way or the other.

Maniac · « **Reply #146 on:** December 14, 2003, 05:31:23 PM »

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I'm thinking the 4-6 month range should certainly prove definitive one way or the other.

Your time estimates has been dead wrong before right?

Suave · « **Reply #147 on:** December 14, 2003, 05:32:42 PM »

We just found the principal WMD .

USA and her friends have overthrown a genocidal dictator again. History will not look kindly on those who tried to stop us.

maslo · « **Reply #148 on:** December 14, 2003, 05:36:13 PM »

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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Yep and the Czechs stopped resisting the USSR after 1969.

hehe you probably mean 1968
and you probably dont know much about situation
czech werent defending.. political situation here was similary to contemporary china.
we had comunist regime, but it wasnt so idiotic like russian and that was the problem ... so somebody called to russian and told them that we are preparing contrarevolution, and it was basicaly bullsh|t.....
so big brother came here to free us by occupation from evil and they started to teac hus whats "right" for us
http://www.utia.cas.cz/CZrep/1968/1968r.html
http://library.thinkquest.org/C001155/index1.htm

well occupation is realy best way how to make friends... hitler and russian could speak about it .... but contemporary US copy their habbits w/o any diferences... same propaganda, same cheap BS
1. explain your citizens that they are the best
2. explain them that they are in danger

and machine is rolling

muckmaw · « **Reply #149 on:** December 14, 2003, 05:37:57 PM »

And yet another day....

That it MUST SUCK TO BE A BUSH HATER!!!