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Offline crowMAW

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Question Regarding Political Philosophy
« Reply #60 on: December 24, 2003, 08:53:23 PM »
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and I can give you examples where government has provided a service more efficiently than a private contractor.

I bet you can't

Currently I am a VP in a large multinational corporation.  But I did a stint in government where I worked as an industial engineer/operations research analyst trying to make government more effecient.

Here is an old news article of which I have direct knowledge:

http://www.polkonline.com/stories/123098/sta_collect.shtml

I was the evaluator for the success of this contract.  I personally wrote the performance metrics and developed the cost model that was used.  I based the metrics and cost model on the current performance of the State run child support collection process.  All the numbers in that news story came from me.

The two private vendors had a two year contract to work these cases.  They both gave up because they could not do the work as well as the State as cheaply as the State.  They failed...miserably.

I have learned that it does not matter if the organization is government or private.  There are certain attributes of an efficiently run organization...they can be found in the Baldrige Award and Sterling Award criteria.  The Florida Department of Revenue, who administers the child support program, was a Sterling Award winner...the first government agency to be so honored.

Now, before you go running off about services not needed or some such hoo-ie...I think we both agree that individuals should take responsibility for their actions.  This includes having a baby.  And as such, both parents must take responsibility financially for the care of the child or give it up to someone who is willing to do so.

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Question Regarding Political Philosophy
« Reply #61 on: December 24, 2003, 09:03:34 PM »
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crowMAW: they are complementary not mutually exclusive... Oddly, it seems that proponents of the two schools like to argue that one is exclusively better than the other.

 Chicago school believes that government must confiscate a portion of people's property every year by the way of monetary inflation of fiat currency.
 Austrians believe that free market should decide what acts as money - with commodity standard most likely developing as monetary system.
  Austrians believe that fall in prices is the natural result of the free market development and should not be tinkered with. CS demands artificial inflation - with all ensuing ill-effects on temporal structure of capital, causing the business cycle phenomena, etc.
 What could be more contradictory than that?

 miko

So which are you Miko?  Make comments like you are a Chicago School proponent and now you say you are for the Austrian School.

See what I mean that there should be a melding of the two.  Even you can't keep them straight.

Yes, there are some differences.  And as I said earlier there are some advantages and disadvantages to a commodity standard.

But schools both advocate a more "free market" society.

BTW, where did Hayek go to teach after leaving the Austrian School to avoid WWII?

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Question Regarding Political Philosophy
« Reply #62 on: December 24, 2003, 09:32:14 PM »
crowMAW: So which are you Miko?  Make comments like you are a Chicago School proponent and now you say you are for the Austrian School.

 I'd say Austrian School - a student, not an adept by any means. l am all for Friedman's free-market rhetorics, but when it comes to actual economics, his is fallacious.

Yes, there are some differences.  And as I said earlier there are some advantages and disadvantages to a commodity standard.

 Slavery, socialism and collapse into barbarism rather than freedom and prosperity - I'd say there are some differences. :)

But schools both advocate a more "free market" society.

 Republicans "advocate" small government. So what?

BTW, where did Hayek go to teach after leaving the Austrian School to avoid WWII?

 London School of Economics?
 Hayek had differences with Mises on some issues. I encountered them but I am not so well versed as to discuss those yet.

 Regards,
 miko