Author Topic: Iraqis take the UN to task (Read 2621 times)

JBA · « **on:** December 16, 2003, 07:54:15 PM »

I hope they keep it up and embarrass Annan and the rest of the appeasers.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/16/international/middleeast/16CND-NATION.html?ex=1072242000&en=2aedd578f1c193c5&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE

Taking a harsh view of the inability of quarreling members of the Security Council to endorse military action in Iraq, Mr. Zebari said, "One year ago, the Security Council was divided between those who wanted to appease Saddam Hussein and those who wanted to hold him accountable.
"The United Nations as an organization failed to help rescue the Iraqi people from a murderous tyranny that lasted over 35 years, and today we are unearthing thousands of victims in horrifying testament to that failure."
He declared, "The U.N. must not fail the Iraqi people again."
It was not immediately clear how the accusatory tone of Mr. Zebari's speech affected the closed-door discussion over the United Nations' role in Iraq that followed, but Secretary General Kofi Annan, the first to emerge from the hall, appeared taken aback.
"Now is not the time to pin blame and point fingers," he told reporters. Saying that Mr. Zebari was "obviously entitled to his opinion," Mr. Annan said that the United Nations had done as much for Iraq as it could under the circumstances and was prepared to do more.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #1 on:** December 16, 2003, 08:04:53 PM »

B17Skull12 · « **Reply #2 on:** December 16, 2003, 08:06:15 PM »

AKIron · « **Reply #3 on:** December 16, 2003, 11:36:16 PM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
If you don't stand up and fight for your own freedom you're not worthy of freedom.

Thousands did and look what it got them. I think you may have missed the point here.

AKIron · « **Reply #4 on:** December 17, 2003, 12:09:28 AM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
Most people lived a good life and didn't CARE what happened to those with enough backbone to protest.

You make him sound almost benevolent. Sure, many were loyal. He kept them very comfortable and close while torturing and murdering those WITH enough backbone to oppose him. He was so loved he needed 5 or 6 look alikes so that there was enough of him to go 'round.

AKIron · « **Reply #5 on:** December 17, 2003, 12:14:16 AM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
A fellow NATO country has been murdering Kurds for ages with out anyone raising their voice against it.

I'm not sure here, are you complaining that we shouldn't be doing anything about it now 'cause we didn't then? It's never too late to do the right thing.

AKIron · « **Reply #6 on:** December 17, 2003, 12:42:52 AM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
I'm not complaining anything, AND NEITHER DID MOST IRAQIS. That's my point. Yet they now blame non-Iraqis for not helping them.

If you're not complaining what is the point of your posts?

AKIron · « **Reply #7 on:** December 17, 2003, 01:00:23 AM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
Are you drunk? Are you saying every post on this BBS is a complaint? Are you complaining now?

I'm expressing my opinion on the Iraqi people and their pathetic bid for freedom ... purchased with the blood of foreigners.

Call it what you like. Sounds like you are complaining, ok, expressing your opinion that they have no right to ridicule the UN for not helping them because they were too cowardly to help themselves. Is that about it?

BTW complaining isn't synonymous with whining. I'm not calling you a whiner...yet.

Sandman · « **Reply #8 on:** December 17, 2003, 01:08:17 AM »

We're free in this country because our ancestors fought and died for it, not be cause we were bailed out by some benevolent empire.

The UN isn't typically in the business of toppling dictators with bad human rights records. Hell, the US isn't either.

The Iraqi people had this form of oppressive government because they allowed it to be so. Bottom line.

AKIron · « **Reply #9 on:** December 17, 2003, 01:13:08 AM »

We invaded Iraq for our well being. Theirs was a bonus benefit. Don't like it? Call someone who cares.

AKIron · « **Reply #10 on:** December 17, 2003, 01:24:22 AM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
And your benefit how?

Generations worldwide down the road will be much safer without a terrorist spawning middle east. We're just gettin' warmed up.

AKIron · « **Reply #11 on:** December 17, 2003, 01:30:08 AM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
Ah, I see. Yes I'm sure you will be more safe from terrorism after this. I'm sure ... really.

Ah, sarcasm, and so witty too.

Sandman · « **Reply #12 on:** December 17, 2003, 01:31:14 AM »

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Originally posted by AKIron
Generations worldwide down the road will be much safer without a terrorist spawning middle east. We're just gettin' warmed up.

I predict that generations down the road will see this as the abyssmal failure that it is.

...but I'm a pessimist.

AKIron · « **Reply #13 on:** December 17, 2003, 01:34:35 AM »

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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
I predict that generations down the road will see this as the abyssmal failure that it is.

...but I'm a pessimist.

I guess we could just appease the terrorists like some countries have. It won't be me that tells my wife she's gonna hafta wear a burkha, I'll leave that to you.

Sandman · « **Reply #14 on:** December 17, 2003, 01:57:24 AM »

You give Hussein far more credit than he deserves, IMHO.