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Offline Maniac

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« on: December 20, 2003, 03:15:59 PM »
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Capt. Funkypants Foreign Policy 101

1. Bring all the troops home. All of them.
2. End all foreign aid. Israel, etc, **** 'em.
3. Peace dividend from military spending reduction should go directly to tax rate reduction.
4. Let the price of petroleum rise or fall as it may.
5. Market will find cost-effective alternative/renewable energy solutions.


Says the POLISH GUY!!!! :lol
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« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2003, 04:11:42 PM »
Very interesting. But hey did you see how the Iraqi people are being told Saddam was captured? This is about as good as that Russian site that reported the war was a disaster for the Americans right up to the day when they took Bagdad.



(Hey call me a post hijacker but I cannot create a new thread.)



Iraqi version of how Saddam was captured
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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2003, 04:16:32 PM »
man....thats just too funny.....and scary at the same time.

I don't wanna call em stupid.....but that article just confirms it.
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« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2003, 04:18:25 PM »
LOL
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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2003, 06:47:40 PM »
http://agw.warbirdsiii.com/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=28088

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ISOLATIONIST
Pronunciation:    `Isu'leyshunist

Matching Terms:    isolationism, isolationistic
 
Definition:   [n]  an advocate of isolationism in international affairs
[adj]  of or relating to isolationism

Synonyms:   isolationistic
 
See Also:   advocate, advocator, exponent, proponent

 

The only problem is...it didn't work before....
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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2003, 06:50:19 PM »
Ya i know, dont have my AGW password at home :D

And dont tell me i cant cross-post, youre the wrong guy rip :p
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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2003, 06:55:06 PM »
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Social Change in the United States
During World War II

As the possibility of a second World War arose people began to form opinions on the United States’ role in Europe. The general population disagreed on whether or not to get involved in the conflict with Germany. Some people believed in interventionism, the theory that the United States should do everything it could to support Britain without declaring war on Germany. Along with William Allen White they formed the Committee to Defend America by Aiding the Allies. Others supported the idea of isolationism, which said that the United States should defend itself first. The supporters of isolationism formed the Committee to Defend America First which was supported mainly by pacifists and socialists and well as democrats and republicans. The majority of Americans were against the involvement of the United States. Congress acted on this general opinion by enacting neutrality laws and appropriating little money for the army and navy. Because of its poor funding, in 1939, the United States Army was small and ranked only 39th in the world. Much of its artillery was still drawn by horses (Harris, 17).
After Japan’s surprise attack on Pearl Harbor the opinion of the American people drastically changed. Isolationism was eliminated virtually overnight.


You wouldn't think of the Captain Funky as one to run and hide under the tablecloth after 9/11

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Most Americans thought they were fighting for President Roosevelt’s four freedoms:

We look forward to a world founded upon four essential human freedoms.
The first is freedom of speech and expression...everywhere in the world.
The second is freedom of every person to worship God in his own way...everywhere in the world.
The third is freedom from want...everywhere in the world.
The fourth is freedom from fear...everywhere in the world.
--President Franklin D. Roosevelt, Message to Congress, January 6,1941 (National Archives and Records Administration)

Isolationst Sentiment
Many Americans during the 1920s came to feel that America's entry into the War was a mistake. After the rise of the NAZIs in the 1930s and Germany's rearmament, it became increasingly clear that Europe was moving toward another war. There was considerable talk of war profiteering. Many were detrmined that America should avoid war at any cost. This feeling was intensified with the Depression of the 1930s and the country's focus was on domestic issues. The anti-war sentiment in America and the memories of the men lost convinced many Americans that America must not get involved in any future European war. These sentiments combined with long-standing American isolationism resulted in the passage of a sries of Neutrality Acts. These Acts prohibited for United States companies to trade with belligerents. As a result, while the Fascist powers aided Franco's Falange in Spain, the Spanis Republic could not even buy arms in America. The show of German arms in Spain, especially Luftwaffe bombings of Spanish citties terrified many. With the growing military might of a rearmed Germany, war talk in Europe began. This fueled rge desire of many Americans to remain neutral. Isolationist leaders opposed any involvement in a European war and clashed with President Roosevelt who increasingly saw the need to confront the NAZIs and Japanese militarists. Some like Charles Lindburg, thought that America could not win a war against Germany's vaunted Luftwaffe. Many not only opposed American envolvement, but even military preparadness and military expenditures were strongly oppossed in the Congress.


Struggle Against Isolationism
Aginst this backdrop, President Roosevelt who did see the dangers from the NAZIs and Japanese militaists, with great skill and political courage managed to not only support Britain in its hour of maximum peril, but with considerable political skill managed to push through Congress measures that would lay the ground work for turning American into the Arsenal of Democracy, producing a tidal wave of equipment and supplies not only for the American military, but for our Allies as well in quantities that no one especially the AXIS believed possible.

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« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2003, 07:00:28 PM »
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You wouldn't think of the Captain Funky as one to run and hide under the tablecloth after 9/11


Say what?
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« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2003, 07:02:19 PM »
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Originally posted by SLO
man....thats just too funny.....and scary at the same time.

I don't wanna call em stupid.....but that article just confirms it.


I agree that it is scary. Thing is the arab world who wasn't there to see what really happened would simply rather believe another arab / muslim than the western press. The more outrageous the better. It doesn't have to make sense or be logical, just be as rabid as it can and they will still swallow it. After all as far as their side is concerned this is a war over religion as far as I can see.
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« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2003, 07:05:31 PM »
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Say what?


When attacked in Pearl Harbor, we didn't withdrawl to our shores, we expanded into the fight of WW2.  Personally, I believe there is so much political change going on in the world today, similiar to that of the early 30's, that our presence needs to be out there to help shape "not-so-friendly" continents and prevent terrorism to breed like it did in the 80's and 90's without being disturbed.
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« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2003, 07:12:08 PM »
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we expanded into the fight of WW2


And im truly greatfull that you did... Otherwise i might not even have been here today...

My grandmother was thrown into a "work camp" after she worked as a cleaning lady in a German prison camp in Poland, she smuggled letters out from the prison for English pilots and got cought...

But compared to then i see the world as much more stable now... But then i again i wasnt born when WWII took place, perhaps they tought the world was all nice and dandy before Hitler came along...
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« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2003, 07:14:41 PM »
Rip that's great and all, but I don't want to pay for it.  Government is taking a huge percentage of the fruits of my labor (paycheck) and redistributing it to military contractors and services rendered to other countries who don't pay a damn thing.  Maybe you want to spend a significant portion of your working hours in slavery to this end, but I sure don't.

Per the Constitution the federal govt's job is:
"To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions"

I don't see anything there about being global rent-a-pigs.
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« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2003, 07:17:05 PM »
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I don't see anything there about being global rent-a-pigs

Government is taking a huge percentage of the fruits of my labor (paycheck) and redistributing it to military contractors and services rendered to other countries who don't pay a damn thing



America will get more money out of Iraq then you lost in bombs etc...

Its the human lifes that you should be complaining about, not money...

Pitifull
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« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2003, 07:24:08 PM »
Well if one were concerned about human lives, one would realize that taking out Saddam will save a lot more lives in the long run than were lost in the very short war.  Pitiful.
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« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2003, 07:26:47 PM »
Did i say that it was a bad thing that you took out Saddam? When and where?

The only thing i EVER have complained about is how the war was sold...

Now go and count your cents so you can make the rent :rolleyes:
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