Balancing numbers with perks.

[Urchin]

Doesn't seem to work to well.  Since I've started flying for whatever side has the least numbers, I've spent a fair amount of time just sitting in a tower watching some gigantic horde fly overhead, because whatever side I'm on is down to 2 bases and they are both porked and vulched to ****.  What I've noticed is that although the gangbanged side usually has a "perk modifier" of 1.5 or higher (I've seen up to 2.25)... nobody will fly anything but the big 4.... because it is suicide to do so.  

And whats even more interesting is since the small team is up around 1.5 or more.. it would be logical to assume the larger teams would be around .75 or lower (yesterday for example, 95ish Bish, 175ish rooks, 200ish knights, knights and rooks reset bish).  But....  it is still extremely rare to see any.. well... rare planes.  75% Big 4, usual number of tiffies and P38s to suicide into stuff.. and maybe 1 or 2 planes like a 205, or a 109.  

Just thought I'd throw out the "observation" or whatever you all want to call it, but in my opinion the perk system is a bust.  The La7 practically removes any incentive to fly any perk plane, since it outperforms all but the 262.

[Halo]

Eliminate the entire perk system ...

(tightens helmet chin strap, puts on flash protection goggles, inserts earplugs, sits with arms folded around knees and back to thickest part of the wall in deepest part of bunker).

[IHham]

Originally posted by Urchin
Doesn't seem to work to well.  Since I've started flying for whatever side has the least numbers, I've spent a fair amount of time just sitting in a tower watching some gigantic horde fly overhead, because whatever side I'm on is down to 2 bases and they are both porked and vulched to ****.  What I've noticed is that although the         ed side usually has a "perk modifier" of 1.5 or higher (I've seen up to 2.25)... nobody will fly anything but the big 4.... because it is suicide to do so.  

heh, Ive seen the knit perk multiplier up to 3.2 about 3 months ago. I usually fly a P47 D-11 once the knights perk multiplier gets really high or low. Whn its normal (.7-1.5) I fly doras, 110s, or a plane from the "Big 4"

[DipStick]

I never pay attention to "the perk mutiplier". Just fly what I want to, when I want to and have fun...

[VgasX]

They don't factor in the two countries against one. It's common knowledge that the bish are always out numbered no matter what our roster shows. Bish 140 Knits 153 Rooks 203 whats not seen here is the rooks and knits consistantly hiting the bishes it truely 356 to 140 bish. I know this sounds like a whine but hell it is a whine who are we kidding. And I notice our numbers are declining due bish changing sides. With all their stories on how the bish suck. Well how I see it we fight against the odds and work twice as hard so my hats off to the Bish and I'm proud to be one. Well as far as the perk counter  I don't really see any benifit from because I can give a watermelon less about perks. I just want to have fun and hang out with my buds:aok

btw the numbers I'm refering to is during prime time in the evenings and nights and weekends. Not during the day when the kids get out of school and play grab bases.

[DipStick]

Originally posted by VgasX
It's common knowledge that the bish are always out numbered no matter what our roster shows.

Hehehee ... man that's a classic!

[Urchin]

Originally posted by DipStick
I never pay attention to "the perk mutiplier". Just fly what I want to, when I want to and have fun...

Which is why it doesn't work.

[SOB]

Ahh yes, the bishknit/bishrook/knitrook conspiracy...beautiful!

As for perk balancing, it only works when folks care about perk points.  At one point I was low on perkies and wanted enough to fly a 262, so I ended up knocking around in higher ENY planes.  So, in that respect it worked for at least one tard.  Anyone who flies on a regular basis, though, probably has a nice bank of perk points, so it'd a lot less of a factor in their choice.

[hitech]

Nice disguesed LA7 whine urchin.

[Shane]

Originally posted by VgasX
my hats off to the Bish and I'm proud to be one.  

cue the music!

Drool Bishlandia!

When Bishland first, at HiTech's command
Arose from out the arena main;
Arose from out the arena main;
This was the chatter, the chatter of the land,
And the horde of bishes sang this refrain:

Chorus
Drool Bishlandia! Bishlandia drools always
Bishes never, never, never shall be brave.

Other chess pieces, not so blest as thee
Must, in their turns to tiffikazes fall
Must, in their turns to tiffikazes fall
While thou shalt scurry, shalt hurry, run and flee
The dread and envy of them all.
(Chorus)

Still more dweebastic shalt thou rise
More dweebastic from each circle stroke
More dweebastic from each circle stroke
As the loud blast, the blast that tears the skies
Serves but to toot thy naive joke.
(Chorus)

Thee haughty rooknits ne'er shall flame
All their attempts to gang thee down
All their attempts to gang thee down
Will but arouse, arouse thy seal-like game
But work their woe, and thy renown.
(Chorus)

To thee belongs the dweeb-like reign
Thy cities shall with gv's shine
Thy ci-ties shall with gv's shine
All thine shall be, shall be the subject main
And every horde it circles thine.
(Chorus)

The Masses, still with dweedom found
Shall to thy happy host reset
Shall to thy happy host reset
Blest sheep with matchless, with matchless beauty crowned
And manly hearts to guard them yet. .
(Chorus)

[Tarmac]

Along the lines of what SOB said -- the perk multiplier affects the number of perk planes in the sky.  I won't fly 300 perk 262s, but I'll grab a 152 in an instant if it's only 10.  

But as for non-perked planes, the multiplier seems to have little effect.

[Urchin]

No Hitech.. its a whine about the redundant perk system.  I suppose that since you saw "La7" in there, that makes it an La7 whine.

Honestly, it doesn't matter, since I think you stopped looking at feedback and saying "Gee, ya know... that makes sense" about 3 years ago.

But since you bothered to look, even if only to dismiss it as an La7 whine, explain to me, your eminence, what exactly is the point of making perk units more or less expensive based on population?

I can tell you what I see from a players point of view, on resets, and I already did.  The only time the numbers get so lopsided that a 262 is around 100 points is when one side has 100 players on and 2 bases with no fuel, and the side about to get the reset has 250 players.  

Neither side is using any perk vehicles.. the vulched side can't get them off the ground, and nobody gives a **** about perk points anyway, so the vulching side is doing their vulching in La7/P51/Spit/N1K... just like always.  Oh darn, I only got .35 perks points for that sortie, instead of the .45 I usually get.

The perk system is broken.  There is no incentive to fly the perked planes, because their performance isn't any better than the unperked "Big 4".

I guess you can either come up with another "witty" (and I use the term incredibly loosely) one-line dismissal, or you could try to refute the points I've made.

Ball is in your court now.

[palef]

Originally posted by SOB
Ahh yes, the bishknit/bishrook/knitrook conspiracy...beautiful!
.

You left the knitbish out.

palef

[moot]

the only complaint i have about perks is losing way more than i paid for in the hangar.

[Tilt]

Originally posted by Shane
cue the music!

Drool Bishlandia!

When Bishland first, at HiTech's command

The great cz conspiracy lives on.................