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Offline Rude

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« Reply #90 on: January 22, 2004, 09:26:53 AM »
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Really now? Please not the date and venue of this speech by President Bush...

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/09/20020912-1.html


Hristo is not interested in the truth but rather displaying his dislike for Bush....don't waste your time.
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« Reply #91 on: January 22, 2004, 09:44:02 AM »
he's interested in doing what's best for our country.... Rude

Sorry dude... This year’s deficit, in itself, disproves that statement well beyond reasonable doubt…Not to mention last years and the year before...
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« Reply #92 on: January 22, 2004, 09:44:05 AM »
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Shame Bush didn't live thirty years ago. There would be no Pinochet to murder his own people, right ?

Bush lied about WMDs to get his war.

Saddam is removed. People are dying every day now in Iraq ? Could it be that US presence has anything to do with it ?


You are such a little misguided Socialist and always have been....best to get over it, as nothing you say will change US foreign policy in the least.

Bet that sucks don't it?

You're bold statements as to Bush lying is laughable....you know this as fact how? Just because we have not found them does not mean the intel was wrong.

People dying? You cannot be that ignorant. Is it the US troop presence trying to help the Iraqi's that is the problem, or the terrorist efforts to kill US and Iraqi citizens for their own personal Jihad the problem?

Of course, you admire the terrorist and others like Saddam...it's the Americans you enjoy seeing killed.

Miserable life you must lead.
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« Reply #93 on: January 22, 2004, 09:48:27 AM »
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he's interested in doing what's best for our country.... Rude

Sorry dude... This year’s deficit, in itself, disproves that statement well beyond reasonable doubt…Not to mention last years and the year before...


Did you notice the mention of controlling spending and the 4 year initiative which would reduce the deficit by half?

Remember....Bush does not spend all the money....the Congress is responsible to us all for poor fiscal management....course it plays good for some to blame Bush for everything:)

The war? Money well spent.....it's about the future and not the status quo....the status quo has not worked. How many more years do you want what we've had in the Middle East?

Leadership has nothing to do with being popular and feeling all good inside.
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« Reply #94 on: January 22, 2004, 09:54:57 AM »
lol bush said alot of things in his state of the union address last year. and almost none have even been acted on. What makes you think this years will be any different. Remember that tax cut that was supposed to create 1.7 million jobs within 2 years. Well its created around 200k.
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« Reply #95 on: January 22, 2004, 10:02:07 AM »
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lol bush said alot of things in his state of the union address last year. and almost none have even been acted on. What makes you think this years will be any different. Remember that tax cut that was supposed to create 1.7 million jobs within 2 years. Well its created around 200k.


Can I point out it has obviously not been two years yet? ;)
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« Reply #96 on: January 22, 2004, 10:07:33 AM »
yes Rude I heard and remember that.. That was my other favorite part of his speech... He said he would reduce the deficit by half over hte next 5 years..

Rude, do you understand the difference in the deficit compared to the debt? national deficit compared to national debt?

Anyone care to answer what our national deficit was before Bush's term? What it was for the previous 7 years? What the projections for paying down the national debt was?

Rude, another thing to consider... Who benefits by our country taking out hugh and unhealthy amounts of debt?? Certainly not the average joe on the street...  But some do...
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« Reply #97 on: January 22, 2004, 10:08:17 AM »
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Toad, perhaps you'd better re-read the other thread too. Which one of us had the Alzheimer's problem again? I keep forgetting. ;)


OK, just remember that YOU asked me to dance; I figured we were done with this.



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....I already have expressed that I was less than enthusiastic about the Kosovo conflict. In that conflict NATO became more than just a defensive alliance, and the UN wilfully interfered in a sovereign state's internal matters with the endorsement of the use of force....In the end the operation was successful, but the whole deal was very fishy IMHO.


Now, is this NorseSpeak for "illegal"?
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« Reply #98 on: January 22, 2004, 10:12:27 AM »
Kappa,

No question the deficit comment was incredibly stupid. Ain't gonna happen under anyone's watch in the near future, and certainly not within five years.
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« Reply #99 on: January 22, 2004, 10:14:06 AM »
Picture a Congress with no money to spend.

See? No matter who wins the White House THAT won't happen.
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« Reply #100 on: January 22, 2004, 10:33:07 AM »
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Kappa,

No question the deficit comment was incredibly stupid. Ain't gonna happen under anyone's watch in the near future, and certainly not within five years.


Not only incredibly stupid, it was also incredibly misleading.. Not unlike 95% of any other commet that comes from our president's mouth.. Apparently, not many americans can rationalize the difference in deficit and debt... Its a slap in the face for our president to slide that by as if it were an improvement.. Its a travisty(sp)...

People, this year's deficit alone is record !!! None have ever been larger.. How can this man be seen as to serve the average american? He is borrowing moneys on your children.. On you children's children...

National debt is not so unlike your check book.. You can only overwrite for so long.. Eventually you have to pay.. Its coming people.. If nothing else, our president has brought us MUCH closer and excellerated our trip 10 fold.. What happens when we cant pay anymore? What happens when our government starts defaulting on it's debt.. Will our government simply print more money as it is doing now? Will we go to war to attempt to finace??

Sure Clinton was a pos for what he did and how he lied.. But responsible government begins with fiscal responsibility.. Any thing less is the 'first' slap in the face to average americans...
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« Reply #101 on: January 22, 2004, 10:36:36 AM »
Problem is, Tom Daschle followed up with the Democratic plan to spend us into oblivion. There simply isn't much to choose from.
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« Reply #102 on: January 22, 2004, 11:01:35 AM »
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Not only incredibly stupid, it was also incredibly misleading.. Not unlike 95% of any other commet that comes from our president's mouth.. Apparently, not many americans can rationalize the difference in deficit and debt... Its a slap in the face for our president to slide that by as if it were an improvement.. Its a travisty(sp)...

People, this year's deficit alone is record !!! None have ever been larger.. How can this man be seen as to serve the average american? He is borrowing moneys on your children.. On you children's children...

National debt is not so unlike your check book.. You can only overwrite for so long.. Eventually you have to pay.. Its coming people.. If nothing else, our president has brought us MUCH closer and excellerated our trip 10 fold.. What happens when we cant pay anymore? What happens when our government starts defaulting on it's debt.. Will our government simply print more money as it is doing now? Will we go to war to attempt to finace??

Sure Clinton was a pos for what he did and how he lied.. But responsible government begins with fiscal responsibility.. Any thing less is the 'first' slap in the face to average americans...


Life will not end as we know it nor will our economy tank due to these deficits....I don't like them, however, they have been a part of our nations economy for tens of years.

The 90's boom allowed us to correct the deficits on paper, however, not one person in Washington ever thought we would not return to the same.

Consider this....could the Dems be pissed, not because of a deficit, but rather that Bush got his way with tax cuts and removed the monies they intended on spending all along?

Time will prove me right...not that I'm a smart person, I just wallow in the business world with smart people....the only folks concerned about the deficit are those not currently in power...they are glad to speak to this issue during an election year.:)
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« Reply #103 on: January 22, 2004, 11:02:11 AM »
Our current deficit's cause can be partialy cited to our president's tax cuts.. Three years later they have failed to produce the jobs our president promised... Who will pay for these? These tax cuts for the wealthy are made up in the form of higher taxes posed to the average american by their states..

We can blame deficits on the congress and that would be partially correct.. But as I stated before, fiscal responsibility begins with the president and his budget...

Our president knowingly attempts to mislead the american public with smoke and mirrors at every turn.. May it be domestic or international issues, our president is lying..

Not unlike our president's 'No child left behind'... He campained on this program... He spoke of it in SotU speeches.. He developed the program(smoke) and then failed to fund his own program that possibly was one of his election keys... Instead, our president funded a war (mirrors)............

Did our president fail to fund anything military?? How much did our president spend on the treaty breaking national missle defense that had previously been proven debunked...??

This man and his policies are not friends of america... They represent friends of american corporate wealth..
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« Reply #104 on: January 22, 2004, 11:06:21 AM »
He is borrowing moneys on your children.. On you children's children...
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