3 Years in Jail

[Mini D]

I wonder how up to date he was on his phone bill.

There's always more to stories like this than what you hear.  I'm suprised he reacted that way to a verizon van parked out in front of his house.  I'm suprised he'd think to grab a gun (unloaded especially) and threaten someone with it.  And... I'm suprised he'd get 3 years if that's all he did.

MiniD

[Maniac]

Must be hard to keep up with state to state laws! why dont have the same laws for the whole country?



A friend of mine was on a holiday with his girlfriend, when he got back from the holliday it turns out that he had a break in in his appartment,

A week later he gets the word that its one of his better friends that did the break in, he takes his car and go looking for him, he finds him, throws him in the back of the trunk and off too the "friends" apartment to get his stuff back (stereo, dvd player, tv etc) he parks outside, he pick his "friend" up from the trunk, but his "friends" girlfriend sees this from the appartment and calls the police.

He got six years in the slammer....

[rabbidrabbit]

Originally posted by Maniac
Must be hard to keep up with state to state laws! why dont have the same laws for the whole country?



A friend of mine was on a holiday with his girlfriend, when he got back from the holliday it turns out that he had a break in in his appartment,

A week later he gets the word that its one of his better friends that did the break in, he takes his car and go looking for him, he finds him, throws him in the back of the trunk and off too the "friends" apartment to get his stuff back (stereo, dvd player, tv etc) he parks outside, he pick his "friend" up from the trunk, but his "friends" girlfriend sees this from the appartment and calls the police.

He got six years in the slammer....

Of course, If he shot a 7/11 clerk he would get about the same...  how does that all figure out?

[Maniac]

Of course, If he shot a 7/11 clerk he would get about the same... how does that all figure out?

Ya, we all was devestaded by this sentance... He could have robbed a bank and got the same sentance...

[Curval]

Originally posted by Mini D
I wonder how up to date he was on his phone bill.

There's always more to stories like this than what you hear.  I'm suprised he reacted that way to a verizon van parked out in front of his house.  I'm suprised he'd think to grab a gun (unloaded especially) and threaten someone with it.  And... I'm suprised he'd get 3 years if that's all he did.

MiniD

Surpise!

[NUKE]

In Arizona you are allowed to fire warning shots at people that don't look "right" if they get near you.

I was at Steve's house for a party when I thought I heard a scratching sound at the back screen door. I instantly lept from my chair, dove to the ground and put 3 rounds through the door in less than 7 seconds. Steve had his gun out too and was covering me just like he does in AH.

When we investigated  outside we found the culprit......a rustling plastic bag.

Needless to say we all laughed and drank a few more beers before firing celebratory shots at random into the electricity filled night sky.

[Vulcan]

Umm, lets see did he feel immediately threatened physically? Sounds like a no.

Did they attempt to follow him inside? Sounds like a no.

Did he have ample oppotunity to call the police? Sounds like a yes.


Imagine you're a contracter for Verizon, you're trying to locate some buried cables. You're checking out a property, then the owner gets home. You try and explain what you're doing but he gets ****ty at you. You need to do your job because theres a major outage somewhere so you keep looking. Next thing the guy comes storming out of his house with a big bellybutton gun. What do you do?

[Fishu]

Originally posted by NUKE
Needless to say we all laughed and drank a few more beers before firing celebratory shots at random into the electricity filled night sky.

I can't wait to hear when someone gets a bullet in his head, dropping from the sky...

What goes up, goes down.

Like in Afganistan, during wedding celebration some genie decided to celebrate it by shooting his weapon straight at the sky and a bullet drilled into the husbands head..

[Curval]

Originally posted by Vulcan
Umm, lets see did he feel immediately threatened physically? Sounds like a no.

Did they attempt to follow him inside? Sounds like a no.

Did he have ample oppotunity to call the police? Sounds like a yes.


Imagine you're a contracter for Verizon, you're trying to locate some buried cables. You're checking out a property, then the owner gets home. You try and explain what you're doing but he gets ****ty at you. You need to do your job because theres a major outage somewhere so you keep looking. Next thing the guy comes storming out of his house with a big bellybutton gun. What do you do?

Hey..you are probably right on the questions and answers, but the rest is pure supposition.  

Sure I can imagine a major outage and a guy storming towards me with a big gun....I can imagine alot of stuff...are you suggesting this is how it happened?  Maybe, it's just not the admittedly one sided story I heard.

[NUKE]

Curval, I remember a case nearly matching this few years ago. It made national news...I wonder if it could be the same case as your friend's.

I remember it was some utility company and the homeowner asked for ID and the ID did not match the company name. I dont remember the state, but it was the same deal almost exactly liked you said.

I would almost bet this is the same incident, as it sounds so familiar.

[Airhead]

Originally posted by lazs2
my guess is that there is MUCH more to the story.   I am not versed on delawares gun laws but this sounds fishy.

I can not imagine this happening in even California if you are on your property and not threatening anyone.   I also see no reason to have an unloaded gun.

There is no law that I know of in Califiornia or any western state that would not allow you to carry a gun on your property.



lazs

You're right Lazs, "not threatening anyone" being the key. If you walk out onto your front yard to investigate a disturbance you are permitted to posess a legally owned and registered firearm.

However, if you point that gun (or knife) it's brandishing a weapon, or assault depending on how they write you up.

[AKS\/\/ulfe]

So, I can't run out onto my lawn yelling "Get off my ****ing property you ****ing ******s!" while swinging a noose with a "ghost" costume on?

What has this country come to?!
-SW

[Steve]

Ya Nuke, when ya gonna replace that door?

[NUKE]

Originally posted by Steve
Ya Nuke, when ya gonna replace that door?

well, if i ever get outta Texas I'll buy you and Stacey dinner and a door

p.s. Texas is FLAT as a pancake.....I miss the mountains and scenery

[ALF]

Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
So, I can't run out onto my lawn yelling "Get off my ****ing property you ****ing ******s!" while swinging a noose with a "ghost" costume on?

Yes.....yes you can.....for a few minutes....before the nice young men in their clean white coats come...to tak you away.....ha ha.


BTW....please explain the reasoning behind brandishing an unloaded gun?  Where I was trained, you dont take a gun out in a non training situation unless you plan on using it...and you dont plan on using a gun unless you plan on killing someone.  By bringing our an unloaded weapon.....all you do is invite all other involved parties to shoot you in self defense.....and there you stand...proud...with your unloaded weapon.

If they are a threat....the gun should be loaded...I mean...an unloaded gun isnt much help.

If they are not a threat....ummm...well....why the gun....did it make him feel good or something?

This sad story is a perfect example of stupidity and ego meeting head to head.  Let this be a lesson...do not even think about brandishing your weapon unless you indend on killing someone.  Loud noises andelling are for scaring people....guns are for killing those who pose a legitimate threat....who are too stupid to be scared.