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« Reply #90 on: January 30, 2004, 12:32:59 PM »
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I think it was...

Again chairboy.. stop being weak and explain WTC #7 to me..


Actually Kappa, you've made the extraordinary claims, so the burden of proof rests with you.

My case has been made for me already by the firefighters, police, investigators, and thousands of victims of the 9/11 attack.
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« Reply #91 on: January 30, 2004, 12:35:58 PM »
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You people are pointless as well as brainless... What a ****ing waste of ****ing time! And to think such things couldnever happen with brainless wonders like these among our country... Now THATS a leap........

Skuzzy.. please lock this thread before I do something that gets it locked..


To paraphrase:

THEY ARE NOT OPEN MINDED!!!!!!!

Nice prediction lazs!!

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« Reply #92 on: January 30, 2004, 12:40:25 PM »
Kappa tell me something, do you belive that WTC 7 was rigged with explosives before 911 or do you think the explosives were installed only after the attacks that morning?

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« Reply #93 on: January 30, 2004, 12:42:41 PM »
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Actually Kappa, you've made the extraordinary claims, so the burden of proof rests with you.

My case has been made for me already by the firefighters, police, investigators, and thousands of victims of the 9/11 attack.


chairboy,  you cant realize that I've made a case already about WTC #7..  realize there are no thousands of victums, firefighters, police, or investigators saying WTC #7 was not imploded.. Go away, please....
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« Reply #94 on: January 30, 2004, 12:46:59 PM »
Grunherz,

opps.. damn you almost had me wasting time again..

Fool me once, shame on you... clearly this is shame on me..
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« Reply #95 on: January 30, 2004, 12:49:39 PM »
Please answer that question.

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« Reply #96 on: January 30, 2004, 12:52:02 PM »
I only believe (from the owners mouth mind you) that it was imploded...  Past that I am unsure...
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« Reply #97 on: January 30, 2004, 12:55:46 PM »
Why would he implode it on 911? I think a number of buildings at the site were demolished after 911, why go through the trouble of doing it on 911?

What was gained?

Further, are you not concerned that many of the sites you quote for WTC 7 also argue that the twin towers were rigged for explosives as well? Would this not lead you to question their credibility?

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« Reply #98 on: January 30, 2004, 12:58:05 PM »
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...and I'm pretty sure you were convinced before you watched any video. ;)


hehe i guess you were pretty sure that 9/11 could never happen before
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« Reply #99 on: January 30, 2004, 01:00:08 PM »
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This kinda stuff allways comes out just befor an election that the democrats are likely to lose... It is allways about republicans and allways so bizzare that it defeats it's own purpose.

Any "open minded" person capable of thinking knows this.

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The "open minded" person club is one that the Republicans can't even buy themselves into ;)

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« Reply #100 on: January 30, 2004, 01:04:36 PM »
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What was gained?

 


good question ...

for example ... #7 has been destroyed by terrorists attack according to US. gov.  

so who could gain something in case that this #7 will fall because of terrorist rather that it fall because somebody wanted it to remove it.

1 thing is to sit at home and keep listen some blablabla speak with calm face
and second thing is to listen people whitch were there..

on that page you will also find, that some were wondering that few days before there we a lot of non annouced drilling in the buildings ..... but that guys was probably drunken commie tard, so we can ignore it and keep listen our mega cool administration... yeah .. coz we rock, we alway true...

god bless us

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« Reply #101 on: January 30, 2004, 01:05:31 PM »
I do not know..

I do not know...

If no creditable reasoning can be given for #7 falling, would that lead you to question the entire day of 9/11?? Whats wrong with questioning??

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Many people have claimed that the diesel fuel and emergency generators exploded within building 7 but even the FEMA report admitted that these remained fully intact. The FEMA report sought to explain how the building collapsed but could only conclude, “The specifics of the fires in WTC 7 and how they caused the building to collapse remain unknown at this time.”

The report is available at http://www.fema.gov/library/wtcstudy.shtm.


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The answer to this question would appear to be the greatest question in engineering history. In over 100 years of experience with steel frame buildings, fires have never caused the collapse of a single one, even though many were ravaged by severe fires. Indeed, fires have never caused the total collapse of any permanent steel structure.

What was done answer this most important question? The only official body that admits to having investigated the curious collapse of Building 7 is FEMA's Building Performance Assessment Team (BPAT), who blamed fires for the collapse but admitted to being clueless about how fires caused the collapse.

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« Reply #102 on: January 30, 2004, 01:10:50 PM »
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I do not know..

I do not know...
 


What DO you know?  All you can manage is to make vague implications.

Here's a question, HOW would they do a controlled implosion of building 7 on the same day?  It takes weeks to set up demolitions, weeks and a bunch of demolitions experts.

BTW, you haven't made your case the way you seem to think you have.  You haven't made ANY case because you haven't actually stated what YOU think happened, you've just posted a few links and said 'Hmm, interesting' and 'Well, according to this website he said this...  but I do not know....  I do not know....'
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« Reply #103 on: January 30, 2004, 01:10:58 PM »
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There must be some among you, im sure not responded to this thread yet as most who have are very cowardly, that could possibly have the balls to challenge these inconsistencies given by our government and what has been reported to have happened by major news media, fire fighters, eye-witnesses, and even the owner himself..


Cowardly? I have spoken my thoughts clearly to you, without dodging or obfuscation. SO... you are convinced #7 was imploded.

As Grunherz asked, was it set to go before 9/11, or was it rigged on that day? You must realize someone would have noticed those people rigging the building either way, not to mention all the attendant rigging and explosives. The time it would have taken to do the job would have taken days. But you can ignore that, and hang your argument on the word "pull".

Your basic physics argument was totally defeated too... you assumed one second per floor- a silly thing to assume anyway, and should never have been taken for granted- and ignored other relevant factors. What do you suppose the kinetic energy of a couple of million tons of debris falling at an initial rate of 32 feet/second would be? Can you show me a picture of any I-beam on the planet that can stand up to that type of force? How would that force be dissipated down the structure, impact after impact? Just basic physics, but I'll allow professional engineers could explain it better than I could. I'll also allow the possibility I might be in error, but I didn't see any such details factoring into your analysis.

What is really silly is you are demanding an exact explanation for every single aspect of the event, as if it were a known science. Can you point me to the research on airliners colliding with skyscrapers, and the collatoral effects on surrounding buildings?

Bottom line: you WANT there to be a conspiracy. You were convinced from the beginning there was. These pieces of "evidence" merely confirmed what you already wanted to believe.

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« Reply #104 on: January 30, 2004, 01:14:21 PM »
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Originally posted by maslo
good question ...

for example ... #7 has been destroyed by terrorists attack according to US. gov.  

so who could gain something in case that this #7 will fall because of terrorist rather that it fall because somebody wanted it to remove it.

1 thing is to sit at home and keep listen some blablabla speak with calm face
and second thing is to listen people whitch were there..

on that page you will also find, that some were wondering that few days before there we a lot of non annouced drilling in the buildings ..... but that guys was probably drunken commie tard, so we can ignore it and keep listen our mega cool administration... yeah .. coz we rock, we alway true...

god bless us

lol


A few days before?  So yoiu are saying they knew of 911 attacks before hand?