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Offline Capt. Pork

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« on: January 31, 2004, 10:08:06 AM »
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France: Friend or foe?
Calm returns, but some say it is just a lull

By Michael Moran
Senior correspondent
MSNBC


As his best CIA source gushed about the American victory, the producer says he noticed a news bulletin on the television behind him: the Eiffel Tower, that great symbol of French grandeur and artistic prowess, had caught fire.

“So I asked him, ‘Hey, do you guys know the Eiffel Tower’s on fire’?” the producer said.

“He was silent for a moment, then he said: “Could this day get any better?”

A joke, or not?
The fire turned out to be minor and not related to terrorism, and the producer involved feels to this day the CIA man had been joking. Joke or not, it speaks volumes about the chasm that has opened between the U.S. and its oldest European ally – a nation whose intervention on the side of the American colonists saved them from defeat in the American Revolution, and whose intelligence networks in the Middle East continue to play a vital role to this day in the Bush administration’s “war on terror.”

Nearly a year has passed since France and America faced-off in the U.N. Security Council. Paris spoke for nations who felt American evidence of Saddam’s WMD programs was insufficient sufficient to justify war. Washington insisted Saddam posed “a grave threat to peace,” in President Bush’s words.

In the end, the impasse caused the U.S. to abandon efforts to win U.N. blessing for the war, bring France and America to such a low ebb that Thomas Friedman, the Pulitzer Prize winning columnist of The New York Times, could write this with a straight face: “It’s time we Americans came to terms with something: France is not just our annoying ally. It is not just our jealous rival. France is becoming our enemy.”


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« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2004, 10:24:42 AM »
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France is becoming our enemy
ROFL


IN, just for the hell of it !


Good thing we got enough warheads to turn any country into a barren wasteland,don't cha think ?

guys, make up your mind  : if we are insignificant, leave us alone.

if we are your enemies, bring it on : we'll lose, but most of you will see their balls fall off from the fallout....


If neither of these ideas look interesting, then it's just a struggle for money and power that opposes us, and that is capitalism : stop whining, and play the game...

We all want our gas 10% cheaper, we have the guts to admit it, you hide behind your  bible thumpers...


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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2004, 10:39:23 AM »
This question isn't meant to aggravate this conversation, although it probably won't do much to calm it, but what, exactly, is France's nuclear capability?

 I was under the impression that the French arsenal is primarily bomber-based, with a very small percentage carried by medium-range SLBMs.

Again, I'm just interested in the facts(since the subject was brought up) and not a pissing contest.

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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2004, 10:49:45 AM »
Cut and paste - ala Rip !

"France is undertaking a modernization of its sea-based deterrent force, with the first of a new SSBN class, the Le Triomphant, along with a new SLBM, the M-45.

The controversial nuclear testing at Mururoa Atoll in 1995-96 was reportedly done to perfect warhead design.

The French are even pressing forward with an advanced SLBM design, the M-51, complete with a stealthy, manuevering warhead called the TN-76.

The means of air delivery will remain potent, though the last French nuclear gravity bombs have been retired.
The Mirage 2000N and carrier-based Super Etendard fighter-bombers are available to deliver short-range nuclear ASMP missiles.

A follow-on to the current ASMP missile, dubbed the ASMP+ is under development and is slated to enter service in 2007. The new French nuclear role aircraft, the Rafale D, should be ready then as well."

To my knowledge :
France has about 500 warheads (100/150kt yield), mainly sub-launched.

silo based missiles have been scrapped years ago , and the "hades" tactical missiles, deemed obsolete, have been dismantled too.

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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2004, 11:49:20 AM »
so france dosent have sheite that copuld hit the us,,,I can guarentte the frenchies could not get a nuclear missle to the USA with out being squashed first...there submarines..ya we know where there at..planes?? please they dont have stealth....ICBM..nope..dotn got them...

Looks like we wont be "losing our Balls"...lolol


thats good..
 

btw i think freance suxcs ..they sold illegal weopons to Saddma.the are willing to make profits over our blood.......I Do not support frech products...Not until the citizens demand accounatablity of there govs and wepaons sellers..."like when we sold chem/bio to Iraq in 85"..god that was dum




lets just quote a Marine in Kuwait...
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"Ya..The French..they are always there when they need us"



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« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2004, 11:58:35 AM »
France didn't fall in line yet?  They're supposed to do everything we say because, well, that's what friends and allies do!

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« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2004, 01:12:22 PM »
Doesn't anyone remember how Superman, who everyone knows is really an American, saved Paris from a thermonuclear bomb in Superman II?

I say they owe us bigtime for that one.

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« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2004, 01:18:13 PM »
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France: Friend or foe?


foe

I can't be wrong I learned it on the O'club of a flightsim nerd BBS.

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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2004, 01:24:06 PM »
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foe

I can't be wrong I learned it on the O'club of a flightsim nerd BBS.


Actually, you learned it from a quoted MSNBC article.

When one of YOUR superheros flys over here and takes out some terrorists, then we'll be even.

Take that:p

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« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2004, 01:32:12 PM »
Sorry but the only french super hero I know is a carricature of the US super heros :D








 

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« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2004, 06:44:28 PM »
Superman was co-invented by a Canadian, "Joe Schuster".

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« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2004, 07:26:39 PM »
DETH TO THE GREAT SATAN FRANCE!!!
Three Times One Minus One.  Dayum!

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« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2004, 05:06:48 AM »
they have about 500 that could hit us.  i have said it befor and i will say it again. what sells for patriotism in america now is fascism.

its Golly-geeed sad, i love the french i have met and wont go for this political hate of the day crap.

we got enough real enemys thanks to shrub anyway.

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« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2004, 01:04:51 PM »
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they have about 500 that could hit us.  


Btw, no French nukes are aimed at Conus, and if there is a contingency plan to do so, I'd like to see it for laughs !

I did not mean to turn this into a pissing contest, (well I was kinda trolling for trailer trash types like BGBMAW who have seen too many B-movies and are Faux News addicts )

I just wanted to remind some of you  that France is a major nuclear power in the world and, according to General de Gaulle's doctrine, still enforced, has the abilty to inflict the same amount of damage it can sustain, Ie attack us and you get 60 million dead.

and BTW : we have gorgeous women, they shave and smell very good,so keep believing the 1950's clichés, while we're getting top ***** under our nukular umbrella !! neener neener !

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« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2004, 01:31:19 PM »
LOL Spooky, show em a picture of your shirt, I think you'll scare BigBaldingMaw even more than he is now :D

(hint: Spooky...big dude)
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