Concealed carry question.....

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Dune
Rip,

If you want to go with a leather holster, look at Galco or Bianchi.

The holster I have for my Colt Officer's Model is a Galco Fletch

And for my Gov't Model, I use an Askins Avenger type by Bianchi


Two other hoslters I really like for big automatics are the Summer Special by Milt Sparks


And the Yaqui Slide by Galco

Thanks Dune!  those are fine looking holsters.

[stiehl]

I would like to get one(firearm) but I have no idea about the procedure.
I'm guessing that I can't just go down to a gunshop, show I.D.(spotless record) and pick my gun up after a week or two.

[Sox62]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
I missed this the first reading...

I'm putting 200 rounds thru the .40 S&W tomorrow. I'll post my results with some stance, and trigger pressure adjustments (physically, me)

The .40 S&W Kahr?

Let me know if you like it.I'm hoping to go to the range Saturday and renting...

[Golfer]

Originally posted by stiehl
I would like to get one(firearm) but I have no idea about the procedure.
I'm guessing that I can't just go down to a gunshop, show I.D.(spotless record) and pick my gun up after a week or two.

Actually...you can.

Now I've been known to carry a weapon though it isn't legal and would be willing to face the penalty if the day came where I had to use it to defend myself.  The neighborhood they lived in was very close to a high crime area and if I was visiting this may well have been a situation where I may have had a Ruger P-89 on my person.  My first apartment in a town in Ohio was in what would be considered a bad area and shootings were not uncommon nor were burglaries.  Yes, when I was at home or out walking to the store after about 7pm I usually carried it in a holster at the small of my back that enabled the gun to be worn under the clothing yet easy to get to (much like tucking it into your belt).  

Point is purchasing a gun isn't hard to do, and there are a few steps but I support those with clean records (the ex boyfriend had one) and an education (the ex boyfriend did not have one) on firearms, be it a standardized course or what not.  The gun laws we have now are getting to where they need to be, though a smaller number of them would suffice making it a deadly sin to use or threaten to use one in any other instance than self defense.

**note**
There was much more to this post and that is why it doesn't 'flow', in the middle I went into an emotional story that didn't need to be there and didn't feel comfortable sharing.  So...here you are.

[Vermillion]

For concealed carry?

If I was expecting serious trouble I would reccommend a SIG P228 (9mm), small and light for a midsized frame automatic and utterly reliable.  Plus large capacity clips are readily available (14 rounds) and it will also use its big brothers (the P226) clips which are 16 rounds.

Otherwise I'm a fan of small frame covered hammered .38's or .357's.  Check out the Taurus 650SS CIA.  Its much more economical than the Smith & Wessons (about half the cost).

5 shot, something like 16 ounces, stainless steel, covered hammered, double action only, and will fit in the palm of your hand.  Plus if your recoil shy you can shoot light load .38's, or you can go all the way up to heavy magnum .357's  And since its a revolver, its a no brainer in operation, whereas with a automatic I would recommend plenty of practice and training.  This is the kind of gun you could throw in a drawer loaded, not touch it for 25 years, and pull it out and expect it to work flawlessly.

[Dune]

Originally posted by stiehl
I would like to get one(firearm) but I have no idea about the procedure.
I'm guessing that I can't just go down to a gunshop, show I.D.(spotless record) and pick my gun up after a week or two.

Steihl, since you're in NYCity, you probably can't.  And it depends on what type of firearm you want.  I would imagine it would be easier to buy a shotgun or rifle than a pistol.  I would find a repuable gun store and go in and ask them.  They would be able to help you find out what you need to do in order to purchase a firearm and which would best suit your needs.

[Gman]

This problem is ONLY in the "E" series.

Um, no.

I run 5 million rounds a year on my range.  I've had well over 3/4's of the Glocks that have blown up NOT be in the recall serial number range.  The ones that are in the range come apart so badly that the factory usually tosses them and just replaces them with a new one.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Sox62
The .40 S&W Kahr?

Let me know if you like it.I'm hoping to go to the range Saturday and renting...

Sox,
Taurus PT100 .40 S&W. pretty good quality it appears for under $500.

[Saurdaukar]

I carry a full size 1911.

Heavy, large, but its the only pistol design I cant find anything wrong with.  Fantastic firearm.

[lazs2]

I like my 44 mag belly gun (4" plus despurred hammer) and my Kimber 1911 style.45 auto but...

if I had to carry every day everywhere I would go with one of the titanium little .357 revlovers or a keltec with .32 or .380 hydroshocks... I am getting a little slower but I bet I could kick anyones butt after I put 5 or eight hydroshocks into em.

these guns are tiny... they weigh around 16 oz each and you can carry em in a pocket and not be aware of em.   the gun you have when you need it is a lot better than the cannon at home.

lazs

[Vermillion]

I would go with one of the titanium little .357 revlovers

Lazs, I looked at these when I bought my little Taurus 650 in stainless steel and figured they were just not worth the investment.

The Titanium revolvers were down in the 12oz range versus the 16oz or so of the stainless steel for the same basic gun.  And the cost was MUCH more.  Titanium was running $600 and up, whereas I bought the Stainless for $325.

And to be honest, I would figure the Titanium to be TOO light.  Even with the stainless at 16oz, it has considerable recoil with magnum loads (even with nice Hoge grips), and in cold weather is downright painful.  The first day I ever shot it, it was about 35 degrees outside (christmas present to myself) and the gun left a bruise in the webbing of my hand and the part between the thumb and index finger on my hand after about 15 rounds thru the gun.  Not for the faint of heart.  

.38's in it, it kicks and sounds bad, but can be control even by a person with small hands (ie women).

I wouldn't want to think about it, if the weapon was 25% lighter.  And you've met me, I'm not a small/weak person.

So personally, I'd reccommend against the Titanium for the small frame revolvers.  It just isn't worth it versus the stainless steel, in either cost or performance.

[lazs2]

verm... you are correct but... 12oz is way different than 16 or so when it is in your pocket all day...

As for recoil... I have never heard anyone who fired a gun in self defense who didn't say that they never even felt the gun go off.   Practice is rough tho... I recall shooting the charter bulldogs in 44 that I was so fond of.... couldn't blow em up with handloads but... the kick would cut your hand on any corner of the gun..

I have fired the titanium guns and your are correct but... I don't care.   If I did care... I would load em with glasser safety slugs.

I have also learned over the years that you ALLMOST allways get what you pay for in firearms.

lazs

[Pooh21]

When I had mine when I lived in Arizona. I carried my little Makarov around. Nice little gun.  I had an inside the belt holster and a pocket holster.  I didnt like the belt one case it was poky when I drove.  Pocket holster was cool and when I had my wallet in as well was dang near invisible on my 6'2'' then 240lb frame.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by lazs2


I have also learned over the years that you ALLMOST allways get what you pay for in firearms.

lazs

Would this apply to pistol ammunition as well? I see some of that Russian stuff in the store, 2 bucks a box cheaper, but I'm very wary of it.

I usually always use Remington ammo for my rifes and shotguns. (Winchester for clay pigeons)

[Pooh21]

I never had any problems with it when using it for my Makarov, but of course since they made both their should be no troubles.  I used American JHP for 1st round only as my Makrov didnt like feeding hollowpoints at all.