Was this God's plan for Carlie?

[Urchin]

Personally speaking...  I think that guy deserves to be tortured before he dies.  I hope they let the father do it.  

I think somewhere this country went wrong when they decided that someone who rapes and kills someone else deserves anything at all, other than to be a conduit for the victims family to express their rage.

[kappa]

bad dreams like this roll in like a cold front
thunderous thunder and lightning in tow
and your tiny little life gets even smaller
as you heed the heavens' mighty show
i don't mean heaven like godlike
cuz the animal i am knows very well
that nature is our teacher and our mother
and god is just another
story that we tell

[1K0N]

Glove give yourself more credit, that was a very communicative response.

IKON

[Hawklore]

Originally posted by Ripsnort

Rip it's suppose to be Hook line and Sinker..

[lord dolf vader]

well not all religions have personal gods. or even gods at all in the all powerfull omnipotent christian cense.

some people need a presence in their life so bad the invent invisible friends. what better than an all powerfull omnipotent invisible friend. if the christian god is all thos things. his plan had to include that girls horrible death, saying he cant stop it is a cop out by definition he/she/neuter can do anything. at the very least the christian god is not benevolent.

[ra]

Originally posted by lord dolf vader
well not all religions have personal gods. or even gods at all in the all powerfull omnipotent christian cense.

some people need a presence in their life so bad the invent invisible friends. what better than an all powerfull omnipotent invisible friend. if the christian god is all thos things. his plan had to include that girls horrible death, saying he cant stop it is a cop out by definition he/she/neuter can do anything. at the very least the christian god is not benevolent.

A good example of why leftists long for utopian government.

[Nakhui]

Take the metaphysical point of view.

We are all part of one eternal spirit and choose to be different manifestations in the physical world.... and we do so repeatly.. there is only death of the body... not of the spirit... and there is no judgement - nothing is good or evil.

We are all creators of this existence and therefor we choose our lives... each and every time.

She chose to be a victim... he chose to be a murderer. Like actors in a play.

It's give a little more comfort than thinking one's been victimized, a failure, and when we die...however long we may live... that was our only chance in all of eternaty of getting it right - that's a pretty heavy burden...

Imagine if your parents when you were 10 years old said to you "you have 1 seconds to decide and completely believe with all your will that Marshmellows are divine Beings."

1 second later, after you say they must be nuts,  they stab you with a knife severing your spinal cord, and you live the next 70 years of your life as a quadrapledgic, bitter, and miserable, and reliving that moment when you had 1 second to make the right decision... and all that you had to draw from to maket hat decision was what you knew about the world at age ten.

Mean while others who believe in Divine Marshmellow Beings walk around and live happy lives... and it turns out this is life - and all that there is too it.

Absurd... absolutely... so is Judeo-Christianity and the belief that people exist merely to serve and praise an egotistical god and bath in his glory, or else they go to hell for all eternity.

Christianity tells you -  You have just a moment in time to choose to believe in the absurd and then you live for the rest of eternity with that decision.

When in fact we must live for the rest of eternity with every decision we make... because every moment is a new decision... and in every moment is a new creation.... it's neither good nor bad.

[DmdBT]

Why didn't God just destroy Satan and his fellow angels instead of throwing them out to run here on the Earth? They are just angels, not created in God's image, but here to serve both God and (eventually) man.

Its like a gv assault on a base, you (God) see an enemy panzer (the devil) taking aim at knocking out a squaddie (man) and instead of just taking out the enemy panzer (the devil) you fire a smoke shell (Jesus) and instruct your squaddie (man) to drive into the smoke and be safe (salvation) until you can take out the enemy panzer (final judgement). Why not just take out the friggen enemy panzer from the get-go?

I was raised Baptist and educated (10 years) in a Baptist private school. I am a "Christian" in that I believe that Jesus died for my sins and that I am putting my faith in Him to cleanse my soul of sin so that I will one day be with Him in heaven. I was always told that we should have a child-like faith in God and the Word, but now that I am older and don't attend church regularly I find myself questioning these things constantly and that is very unnerving to wonder what will be my lot in eternity if I am wrong.

Faith is a very blurry thing.

[Nash]

Like you banana, I've been agnostic my entire life. Wasn't until just recently that I've come to believe that some kind of higher power exists. What powers it has to control the forces of 'good' and 'evil' I haven't the slightest idea of.

But I do have a suggestion for this:

"My whole life, I've been trying to find some way to believe in God.

Just pretend. No amount of intellectualizing it is going to provide you with an answer. You don't need to actually believe right now. Just pretend for a while.

Do it for, say, one week. Say a quick little 20 second prayer in the morning asking for the kind of day you'd like to have, and then one at night thanking him for the good that happened that day. Try to be aware of how god is showing itself to you. Try and be aware of when god is speaking to you. Not much to it. If after a week of this you still don't see things any differently... well, you aren't out any money or aything. I think it's worth a sincere try.

Like Tilt said, your "god" can be whatever you want it to be. Don't get all caught up in religion or trying to believe in one of the predefined notions of what god is, if that doesn't suit ya. Define it for yourself in that case.

I've found that god started to show itself to me after I came to have some sort of faith (however slight at first), not before.  The payoff is profound.

[Tilt]

Clement Atlee  Prime Minister  1946 to>>

an agnostic......was asked if he thought  a God would have been on our side during the war

he replied   "I dont know".............

[mrblack]

I am a firm believer in God .
And I think that old charlie Is going striaght to Hell.
I do take comfort in that beliefe .

[Capt. Pork]

Originally posted by mrblack
I am a firm believer in God .
And I think that old charlie Is going striaght to Hell.
I do take comfort in that beliefe .

Who's charlie?

[AKIron]

Nakhui, don't know what you been smokin' bud but ya oughta lay off.

[AVRO1]

Are we the lucky ones saved for another day
Or they the lucky ones who are taken away
Is it a hand on your shoulder from the Lord above
Or the Devil himself come to give you a shove.
from FATES WARNING by IRON MAIDEN

Or is it none of the above?
Maybe it is just man being man with no Gods involved.

Or maybe an omnipotent God does exist?
Then he knew what would happen to the little girl. Which means that our FreeWill is all smoke and mirrors since our fate was decided at our birth.
Therefore we are puppets and God is the Master of Puppets.

Either way you can't do a thing about it, so why bother?

I see so many people make fun of people in sects.
Some of them don't even realise that what those people believe in is no less unproven then their own beliefs.
I find that quite Ironic.

ATHEISM as many advantages:
No need to go to CHURCH to have a guy BORE you about what you should do even though he as no right to judge you.

No need to worry about acting in accordance to your god.

And many others...

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[Rude]

Originally posted by banana
Ok, straight up. I'm an agnostic. My whole life, I've been trying to find some way to believe in God. But every time I read about another little girl who is kidnapped and killed like Carlie, I become even more convinced that God is a figment of our imagination. What kind of merciful God would have this as his plan for a little girl?

I'm listening, Christians. Was this God's plan for Carlie?

If I felt you were sincere.....

In this world is both good and evil....Satan was cast down to this earth....life is a battle of spirit and flesh.

God loves us all, however, his judgement will come. The Bible states that it rains on the just and the unjust....this fair and peaceful world you long for will not take place ever until God restores it himself....it's coming.

It's going to get alot worse than what we see currently....consider this from Revelations.

Revelation 9
6   And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.

This life of ours is described by God as merely a vapor...it appears and is gone just as quickly....I'de be happy to talk with you anytime, however, God will call you at sometime in your life...he calls for all of his creation...his spirit is in all of us.

All you will have to do is respond...either believe or ignore him...it will be your choice, just like it was mine.

Nothing is free in this life and neither was the blood of his Son....might be in your best interest to listen to no one on a stupid game board and read the Gospels in the New Testament.

Wish ya the best!