Author Topic: Lookie here... My Gloster Meteor in progress (Read 1097 times)

Steven · « **Reply #30 on:** December 10, 2001, 08:51:00 PM »

I'm sure glad I don't drink any liquids when I read these boards some times. O'Westy, your post gave me a good laugh!

DeeezCamp · « **Reply #31 on:** December 10, 2001, 11:26:00 PM »

Below are the FOllowing Updates, really quickies, of the Gloster Meteor.

Right click on these links and choose save target as. once you have them downloaded
take a looksee.

This short animation is showing very basic procedural texture mapping of one of my images
applied to the Gloster Meteor.
http://jbroey3.tripod.com/Simpletexplacment.avi
http://jbroey3.tripod.com/Meteornotexture.jpg
http://jbroey3.tripod.com/Meteorprodecuralbasic.jpg
http://jbroey3.tripod.com/Meteorprodecuralbasic2.jpg
http://jbroey3.tripod.com/Meteorspectular.jpg

The total time taken for the renders after setup: 1hour

As far as Voss is concerned, the more he(you) babble about the subject and provide nothing
to confirm your bashing, I suggest he(you) take a seat.

Also remember that by simply clicking on these links, you may not be able to see them due to
Tripod hosting features.

Enjoy or dont?

Voss · « **Reply #32 on:** December 11, 2001, 12:23:00 AM »

It's rudimentary outline looks very similar to a Meteor, DeeZ. It's coming along very nicely. However, you claim to be an expert at this? No, that simply won't do.

When you get your Meteor to the point that it looks perfect, when you think it can't be improved upon, then and only then will I respond with my own work. So far, you don't even rate a critique. However:

Your rendering thus far looks about as close to a real Meteor as a over-painted plastic model compares to a real metal aircraft. In other words, it's a cheap copy.

I want to see an aircraft that cannot be distinguished from reality. True Photo-Realism should be your goal. I expect to see tread on your tires, cooling grooves in the disc brakes, oil smears on the engine nacelles, rivet lines in the appropritate places, stencils at appropriates sites, and flush fasteners nearly everywhere. I want to see a scale cockpit, that is accurate in every detail, and I want to be able to read the gauges.

I posted the partial panel to my P51-D in the appropriate forum. Just a few gauges to give you an idea what to expect. You still haven't found it.

moose · « **Reply #33 on:** December 11, 2001, 02:16:00 AM »

This thread is like looking at the red ant fight the black ant.

DeeezCamp · « **Reply #34 on:** December 11, 2001, 02:31:00 AM »

LOL Voss, NICE try haha, Its pretty funny I have seen those images on a website www.3dcafe.com quite a while ago. lol

Those pictures have been used to compare a certain programs abilities with another called Brazil. lol

and they have not originated from you lol.

I do think however that the Bottom picture could have been created by you, as it DRASTICALLY differs from the TWO pictures that you posted above as well as considering it is a 2D image.

You see, you seem to be playing a little game. How about you re-render the images showing only the wire frames of the scenes with your name embedded into the frame, possibly then I will belive that you created them lol.

Hey how about this, How about you create a simple ball, perform a boolean operation on the surface so that you leave an area of the object missing with your name imprinted.

This is very basic object manipulation through common 3d boolean functions, of which you should have no problem with at all.

Make sure that you dont ask friends to help either, if you know any 3d guys.

By the look of the Above images, although very very basic with the use of standard primitives, I must say the caustics and reflection is nice, thats about it though lol.

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I want to see an aircraft that cannot be distinguished from reality. True Photo-Realism should be your goal. I expect to see tread on your tires, cooling grooves in the disc brakes, oil smears on the engine nacelles, rivet lines in the appropritate places, stencils at appropriates sites, and flush fasteners nearly everywhere. I want to see a scale cockpit, that is accurate in every detail, and I want to be able to read the gauges.

I posted the partial panel to my P51-D in the appropriate forum. Just a few gauges to give you an idea what to expect. You still haven't found it.

Now, this is where your giving your self away.

You see, A person that does 3d animation/Modeling would not only realise that this in todays state of technology, and although advanced, cannot be achived just yet. Also, you do not seem to understand/know what polygon counts are?

You see, in order to be productive, meaning having a polygonal mesh of what you are describing would require several crays linked together for even basic manipulation. lol

Can someone say 1,000,000,000 polys? per object? hehe

Do you even know how many polygonal faces/verticies are in those shots that you stole?

The Funny thing is, You seem to be confusing 2D with 3d in the image that you either manipulated, or altered in microsoft paint/paintshop pro.

Anyway, post your Gloster meteor within the next 15 hours, along with a simple boolean operation and we can settle the debate.

Cya in 15...

moose · « **Reply #35 on:** December 11, 2001, 02:46:00 AM »

last time i checked, this was the 'AH general discussion' forum, not the 'deezcamp and voss go at it while everyone else laughs at them' forum.

htc, it'd prolly be best to move this thread to it's appropriate forum or close it. no good will come of it.

Voss · « **Reply #36 on:** December 11, 2001, 03:07:00 AM »

That's right DeeZ. I am the author of those same ORIGINAL works of art. In that realm I am known as "GrimDude" or "Grim." I have the original source code and all of the precursory work. They are my personal intellectual property. I don't need the assistance of any '3D guys,' as you call them.

Wire frames? LMAO @ DeeZ. This is not a simple modelling system where I use polygons, dweeb! In fact, none of the images I posted use any wire mesh obects at all.

You perfect your Meteor, as I suggested, and I shall respond with my P-51D.

You want me to re-render one? So be it. I think modifying one of those scenes will be easy enough. You won't like it, though.

Daff · « **Reply #37 on:** December 11, 2001, 06:39:00 AM »

Voss, you're talking out of your A&&.

Daff

hazed- · « **Reply #38 on:** December 11, 2001, 07:14:00 AM »

ok

1. now that youve pretty much told each other you hold eachother in contempt why do you then care what either of you say about the others work?

2. Do you realise how childish this thread appears to those of us who dont do 3D modeling? and is it a bit annoying to realise this?

3. I dont like braggers and this is turning into 2 people argueing over which brag was better in their opinion.....please, who cares whos the best? voss you should be mature enough to not care what deez does! I mean is what deez is doing affecting you?/your work?/your wages?/your neighbours cat?

sheesh

moose · « **Reply #39 on:** December 11, 2001, 07:42:00 AM »

I bet my real life modelling skillz would roXor your computer ones

working on a p-51 of my own, will post pics when done.

future plans are a 109G10 which I can go bezerk with the airbrush on, and another F-15 to add to the collection.

anyone know if there is a company out there that sells actual unit decals?

I live basically on Otis Air Nat Guard base, and the 102nd Ftr. Wing is based here. Remember those F-15s that were over the WTC immediately following the crashes? Those were ours.

It'd be cool to get the actual unit numbers and art on the tails of the F-15s i build.

Lance · « **Reply #40 on:** December 11, 2001, 09:04:00 AM »

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"And all across the country, Creamo-wanna-be's use a new word, entered into Websters Dictionary: "Tard" Description being "anything derogatory that you want it to be, one of "Creamo-o-ness".

Whoohoo! Creamo's got a legacy!

This thread is up to 7 uses of the word Tard. Shouldn't he be getting some royalties?

Ripsnort · « **Reply #41 on:** December 11, 2001, 09:10:00 AM »

Like I said, my CADD system is better than yours!

FlyingDuckSittingSwan · « **Reply #42 on:** December 11, 2001, 09:13:00 AM »

WOW!

Do you work for Boeing?

another question. CAD stands for Computer Aided Design. What does CADD stand for?

One more question. How much does your CADD cost if I were to buy it?

Last question. Isn't that the Boeing that crashed in WTC. The 767?

[ 12-11-2001: Message edited by: FlyingDuckSittingSwan ]

Ripsnort · « **Reply #43 on:** December 11, 2001, 09:27:00 AM »

Do you work for Boeing?
Yes.

another question. CAD stands for Computer Aided Design. What does CADD stand for?
Computer Aided Design and Drafting

One more question. How much does your CADD cost if I were to buy it?
Each work station here at Boeing complete with license is approx. $80,000 if I am not mistaken. I'm not in the finance end of the computers, so I'm shooting from the hip on this estimate (Word of mouth)

Last question. Isn't that the Boeing that crashed in WTC. The 767?
There were two, a 767 and a 757.

Superfly · « **Reply #44 on:** December 11, 2001, 09:45:00 AM »

Ok, I'm going to settle this conversation right now.
YOU ALL SUCK.

Thank you