Peer pressure

[g00b]

I agree 100% that a country-wide team effort is definately lacking. I love getting waxed by an unseen enemy only to see 5-10 country-men chasing after him, indeed, where is my check six? Yes I know I am 100% responsible for my own arse. I give check six's religously, and when I have time will give more info, i.e. "soandso you got a 109 long, low 6" or similar so your friend doesn't mistake which bogey you are warning them about. In my squad we call out all new bogeys and identify which you are tracking. We will also dive into certain death to save a squadie, and "surprise" sometimes you all make it out alive.

The moral to the story... AH etiquitte sucks, you have to join a squad to really get any co-operation and tactics.

[RTR]

Hmmm, yeah...check six's.

I will give them when I can, usually over vox.

This is one of the most abused aspects of the game IMHO.

When I get a check six (not over vox) I immediately change my flight attitude and scan around looking for the badguy. All to often it is an inadvertent six call, or someone trying to draw my attention to them while they are on the deck surrounded by red icons.

Now, if I wanted to be on the deck and surrounded/ outnumbered by a bunch of red icons I would already be down there with you. If you put yourself in that position, chances are I'm not gonna dive in and die trying to bail you out.

As for giving them, I dont always get the right guy highlighted when I'm busy, so I am likely to use VOX.  I have been told by different people..." I dont use VOX so how was i supposed to hear your six call?", after they whine to me about not getting a check six. Are they deaf as well as voxless? who knows..we have brail ATM's at the drive through at the banks too. Go figure.

Have also heard  "You know, sometimes a check six isn't really meant as a check six, I needed help down here."

Jeeeeebuz...You give me a check six, pulling me off of an intended victim, because I now think someone is saddling up on me, and you want me to come screaming down to help you because you are all alone, and surrounded by the whole Knit/Rook/Bish  airforce.

Ahhh..Yup. I'll be right down Pardner!

Check six?..I'll stick with VOX.


Oh, and Steve, I'll bet ya I ram better than you LOL. Have a  film where I was in a pony, flew through a horde of red and dragged a 190 away with me. Took him about 7K away, turned on him and had a pretty good fight on my hands actually. Unfortunately, just when I finally had him and administered the coup de'gras, I proceeded to continue on and fly right into his flaming wreckage.

Every time I watch that film I swear it goes into slow motion as I am flying into him.

Cheers,
RTR

[Raptor]

Originally posted by 1K0N
So next time you get blasted by an enemy plane in a Furball without receiving a complimentary checksix, you must yell as angrily as possible, as loud as you can, on range channel, "Check my friggen six you Arsewhles"
You will be doing your country a favor!!

cant forget to yell on channel 1 that they are cheating when you get shot down:aok

[B17Skull12]

I will normally have Great SA.  I give check 6's from my alt of 15k while diving in to save them, but then i suck at managing my E well and i end up being the one gang bang while the person i tried to save flies off.  I whine sometime but usually im good and feel great to know i saved someone.

[Boozer2]

I dunno guys, I think you get them as you give them. I've had plenty of ck6 I never expected that saved me and I appreciate it, I always do the same as much as possible.

[wipass]

We should all give check 6's when ever possible. Ultimately it can only help educate those that don't.

I hate looking back and seeing 2/3 friendlys chasing a bastage d1.5 from my own six, worried to death about giving me a 6 call in case I have the affront to break and lose them their kill.

ah well

wipass

[lasersailor184]

Now, if I wanted to be on the deck and surrounded/ outnumbered by a bunch of red icons I would already be down there with you. If you put yourself in that position, chances are I'm not gonna dive in and die trying to bail you out

Wow, that blows.  Remind me to never help you out when you get in trouble.

[jaxxo]

"I got enough to do in a dogfight without hunting around my keyboard for the ' key just so some unaware, low and slow target can turn just before he gets whacked. "

My god man you must fly alone alot. Their is a difference between being on auto climb chatting on CH.1 and getting popped and being in a tuff fight and getting whacked from behind by a cherrypicker. Yea bad SA on my part, but I would be pissed to see you fly by pickin your nose sayin "not my problem" while Im in my chute. Arent your fellow friendly fliers called "countrymen"? I hope your not a bishop.

[kj714]

I'm a member of the check your own club myself, I don't want to depend on others for something that important, but I try to give them a lot especially if I find myself in a fight with no 6 chatter going on. I always go verbal, I think I've probably given out more key 6's in error than I have correct ones. If you want to hear them, make sure you give them, a little bit of 6 chatter usually gets it going.

If you are hearing chatter and you just don't hear a 6 for you, well, I don't think it's anything to get p.o.'d about.

As far as bait goes, if you fail to look back long enough that you become true "bait", you've only got yourself too blame. If you're furballing and it takes more than 4 or 5 seconds to take your shot, you better be looking back to see what's going on behind you. It only takes a split second to hit your 2 key on the key pad and see if you're clear.

Just my .02.

edit: "I just hate it when I turn around a go defensive with an aircraft behind me, only to see 5 guys trying to gangbang the con behind me, and not a single one of these guys say, “Hey Skip, spit at your 6, working it” Instead they are to busy trying to get the kill and not letting me know I am about to get sent back to the tower."

Well, not taking back what I said above, but yes, that does suck an egg.

[Widewing]

Originally posted by lasersailor184
Wow, that blows.  Remind me to never help you out when you get in trouble.

If you get yourself into a situation of being ganged because you have bad judgement or zippo SA, you should be left to your fate... Why compound the mistake?

My regards,

Widewing

[FBYeoman]

Yeah check sixes are nice, but somebody mentioned SA; I agree with him.  It takes time to develop real good SA, there's just too many blind spots around the plane at different attitudes of flight.  I agree it is frustrating when there's tons of guys and few enemy and nobody gives a check six. It's not a perfect world and even in the most ideal situation some bandit is going to get you with several of your countrymen engaging in watching their own vectors, and their own sixes.

For the guys who yell and cry over the range channel, I say, "get over it!!".  It happens and nobody truly knows why it happened sometimes, but to just arbritrarily go off is a bunch of idiocy.  I don't do it and I've been nailed several times but never do I go into a tirade and yell at guys on range channel.  I'm not your babysitter watching your six and making sure you don't get in trouble at every single situation.  However, I do appreciate it when my six is callled out and I would do the same back, when and if I see the guy on your six.

[RTR]

Originally posted by lasersailor184
Wow, that blows. Remind me to never help you out when you get in trouble.
_____________________________ _______________________

Why would I jump into the middle of a bunch of sharks in a feeding frenzy, fighting over one little piece of meat?

For that matter, why would you jump in?

RTR

[Kanth]

When I get a check 6 call I immediately bail out.

I can't tell you how many times my squad mates have saved me that way.

God Bless them, every one.

[Blammo]

Originally posted by RTR
Originally posted by lasersailor184
Wow, that blows. Remind me to never help you out when you get in trouble.
_____________________________ _______________________

Why would I jump into the middle of a bunch of sharks in a feeding frenzy, fighting over one little piece of meat?

For that matter, why would you jump in?

RTR

Umm...teamwork?

 

[RTR]

Well, I don't know about you, but I try to teach my squad mates that  diving into a horde of red is basically suicide.

Look before you leap. If you go charging into a hopeless situation why would you expect a team mate to come down and die with you?

So, why wouldn't I dive on in to try to help you?

Teamwork.

Someone's gotta be able to carry out the mission.

'Nuff said. I'm out. Enjoy the frenzy.

RTR