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Offline Shane

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« Reply #45 on: February 23, 2004, 09:28:46 PM »
ooo yeah med, i feel ur pain.  happens to me now and then, very annoying to say the least.
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Offline Zazen13

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« Reply #46 on: February 24, 2004, 10:13:58 AM »
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I've been reading all of these replies and I have come to only one conclusion.  Chk 6 calls are not about self SA.  Giving chk 6 calls is about common curtisy and desciency, it's about working together as a country, knowing that if your countryman gets shot down no matter how poor his SA is, it's only going to make your job more difficult.  I will also agree that while your zigging here and zagging there in a heavy furball it's very difficult to watch every body and if I miss some one than I appologize.  But there are certain times of the day when a certain group of knights do not give out chk 6's and I can't understand why.

Something else that annoyed me today was when I was D150 from an LA7 getting ready to make the money shot and some dweeb comes in from my high 6 in a faster airplane and steals the kill.  As soon as the LA7 goes boom, I look behind me to find a Zero d350 off my tail.  Why didn't this guy cover my 6 and go after the Zero inteade of stealing my kill?  If I see a countryman chasing closely behind  con and another con is manuevering behind him, I'll go after the 2nd bogey while giving a chk6.  
How I came out of it with only losing a rudder is beyond me.  But it kind of goes to the self centeredness and greedyness of this game and the lack of working together as a team that all 3 countries complain about .


No doubt checking your own six is strandard operational procedure for anyone with average SA. But, not everyone's SA is created equal. I've known guys who are brilliant pilots with good gunnery and decent SA up to a point. You put more than three enemies in their general vicinity, however, and they get sensory overload. Not everyone's brain is inherently efficient at multi-tasking. That great pilot with below-average SA is a tremendous asset to me in a fight, I want him to live. Do I give him a check 6? Yes. Why? Because I want him to survive in order to enhance my own effectiveness and that of my team in this localized area. One more friendly zipping around is that much more potential SA overload for the enemy.

Some people have enough SA for themsleves 10 enemy and 4 or 5 friendlies in their area. Those people can hand out check 6's like candy. Just realize not everyone is so well endowed with SA. But, certainly, those that can encompass several friendlies within their sphere of SA should hand them out liberally. On the other hand, don't be particularly upset if you don't get one, chances are the friendly you were expecting it from was as oblivious as you were to the threat.

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Offline T1loady

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« Reply #47 on: February 24, 2004, 10:51:06 AM »
Thank you. Thats all I have to say about that....

Help a brother out and throw a check six every now and then.  What does it hurt????


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« Reply #48 on: February 24, 2004, 10:28:00 PM »
Morpheous, I for one vouch that you are a decent chap in the arena. I recall recently your attempt to bail me out of a 3 or 4 on one. I didn't know you were in a 262 until I was on the deck! But I thank you!

Offline IK0N

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« Reply #49 on: March 06, 2004, 07:26:18 AM »
Last night I found myself in a small furb, very few targets but  one good nme pilot who seemed to evade my unsteady shots, as we come out of a turn and he lines up on two friendlies I was faced with two choices in a split second, throttle back and trim up so I didn't pancake the terrain or check six the two freindlies...My split second choice was throttle down and trim up... I missed the check six call and immedialty got ripped on range with very harsh words and probably deserved "shrecking moron" .. Hey on friday night at 11:00, sobriety is not my strong point.. My apoligizes to whom ever that was.  And thats "Mr shreckin Moron" to me!
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« Reply #50 on: March 06, 2004, 02:00:28 PM »
I check 6 whenever I can   but your 6 is your responsibility
Check 6 early and often
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« Reply #51 on: March 06, 2004, 03:01:10 PM »
I agree that your 6 is your own responsibility. For a while I was constantly getting killed by bad guys coming in low on my six and not getting any six calls, that taught me if I wanted to stay alive I needed to often check low 6.

But when I am in a furball or any other situation for that matter I try to give check sixes. It just makes more sense to me to try and keep my countrymen alive so the odds stay in our favor. I have noticed that the side with the most numbers usually come out the winner in a fight, if you can save a few of your fellow pilots the odds that you will survive improve.