Dubya to Jump Shark

[Hortlund]

"I think that if you feel homosexuality is wrong, it is not a phobia, its an opinion"

[midnight Target]

Kinda like those folks who are really opinionated about heights or small spaces.

[Hortlund]

Originally posted by midnight Target
Kinda like those folks who are really opinionated about heights or small spaces.

If we outlaw small spaces, only criminals will have small spaces.

I dunno MT, I actually thought you knew the meaning of the word "phobia", maybe you could look it up or something.

[midnight Target]

Oh thanks Stevie!

It's been months since I've had even a taste of condecension from you. I thought you stopped caring.

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by Hortlund
Now I want to hear about the 20 000 Odin worshipping englishmen who were mercilessly slaughtered by the Christians...

Was over a soccer game?  

[Frogm4n]

saxons are not englishmen.

[Hortlund]

Now I want to hear about the 20 000 Odin worshipping SAXONS who were mercilessly slaughtered by the Christians...

[Kieran]

I'll bow out of this one with the simple thought; I'll seek the America I wish to see, others can seek the America they wish to see. No hard feelings.

[FUNKED1]

From your posts on this topic once can surmise that to get to the America you wish to see, you seek to revise the Constitution to enforce Christian law on all citizens, regardless of their individual beliefs.  In short, a theocracy.  In that case there will be plenty of hard feelings, and many (most?) will fight you tooth and nail.  And if you lose, you can expect the same treatment in return - state persecution of Christian believers.  So be careful what you wish for.

This is not to say that Christian beliefs are not worthy.  It's just that a belief system forced on a person by state coercion has little value.  You will end up with people whose acts in this world conform to Jesus' teachings, but whose inner beliefs do not.  In fact it is an American trait to rebel against this kind of coercion, and in the long run you will create many more people who hate Jesus than love Him.

[Kieran]

From your posts on this topic once can surmise that to get to the America you wish to see, you seek to revise the Constitution to enforce Christian law on all citizens, regardless of their individual beliefs. In short, a theocracy. In that case there will be plenty of hard feelings, and many (most?) will fight you tooth and nail. And if you lose, you can expect the same treatment in return - state persecution of Christian believers. So be careful what you wish for.

Hold on, Charlie.

Most Americans favor anti-gay marriage legislation; that's a fact. I don't necessarily seek to revise the Constitution, but I feel the hand is being forced by folks who make no other option really possible. It's not something I desire or like to see, but I totally understand why it is necessary.

You guys just.... don't.... get it. If I think homosexuality is immoral I would be pretty morally vacant to vote in favor of it, or to support any legislation that would encourage it. It is my country too, after all. I am not seeking to make people angry or hurt feelings over it, but if that's what happens, it happens.

Religious persecution... har, har, har. If I made half the studmuffin jokes some folks here make about religion your hair would stand on end. That's the truth, too.

[VFJACKAL]

Well Said..... What religieon are you if I may ask?

[Kieran]

American Baptist. You?

[VFJACKAL]

I am in the process of joining a Non-Denominational church. However it would very close to Assembly of God / Baptist. I am a new christian you could say. I have a brother that is a minister and grew up with 2 granfathers that were both ministers for many many years. Religion is not new to me by any means , however I have just given my life to God recently.

Just enjoy reading your posts to some of these folks. Wanted to know what you practiced. I do see that there are a few more christians on here and in Aces High than I originally thought.

Thanks

[FUNKED1]

Kieran maybe I misunderstood your posts.  If I built a straw man with your name on it I apologize.  This thread was specifically about a Constitutional amendment to legally define marriage to conform with Christian teachings.  Are you for or against the amendment?

[Kieran]

I am in the uncomfortable position of having to choose between bad options.

I don't like Constitutional amendments for frivolous causes. OTOH, I cannot support something I feel is immoral. Happy about it? No. But when push comes to shove, I have to lean towards supporting the amendment. I freely admit it's for religious purposes. I freely admit that sounds bigoted. I don't blame anyone for objecting to my viewpoint. But I won't apologize for it, either.