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[Thud]

Originally posted by Kieran
I hold the exact opposite viewpoint.

Exactly what should be taught about homosexuality? Absolutely nothing. Just as our society does not allow the values of religion to be taught in public schools, so should it be with homosexuality.

Why, is homosexuality now an equivalent to religion?

However, I don't think it's necessary to elaborate on homosexuality very much. However, questions will come up anyhow. How should a question about homosexuality be answered by educators? You just can't keep using the 'go ask your parents' escape indefinitely.
It exists, children will find out about its existence, I think they should be told that it is something everyone has to decide for him/herself eventually.

[Kieran]

Originally posted by Thrawn
So schools will probably be teaching the homosexuality is normal or natural soon enough (just like they do evolution), whether or no homosexuals are allowed to get married.  Because that's what the science indicates.

You fight the battles where you can, Thrawn. You win some, you lose some. You don't give up your beliefs because the outcome is ordained.

[Thud]

Originally posted by Kieran
Does that mean that anything that doesn't directly impact me should be legal? Really? Careful how you answer...

Obviously not, it seems though that you're retracing your steps on the 'gay marriages do affect me and my family' issue. Finally began thinking rationally?

[FUNKED1]

Originally posted by Kieran
Does that mean that anything that doesn't directly impact me should be legal? Really? Careful how you answer...

IMHO the state should only regulate activities which affect others negatively.  A couple of homos getting "married" does not affect anyone but the two consenting adults involved, and it's therefore not the business of the state.  Of course I'm a libertarian, not a nanny-state busybody, so YMMV.  If you want to live in theocracy, there are several to choose from, and I suggest emigration.  

[Kieran]

Originally posted by Thud
Why, is homosexuality now an equivalent to religion?

However, I don't think it's necessary to elaborate on homosexuality very much. However, questions will come up anyhow. How should a question about homosexuality be answered by educators? You just can't keep using the 'go ask your parents' escape indefinitely.
It exists, children will find out about its existence, I think they should be told that it is something everyone has to decide for him/herself eventually.

Both are part of a belief system. Respecting one and not another would be discriminatory.

By your logic, we'd better teach religion in school- after all, kids will hear about it sooner or later, might as well be told the "truth".

Beastiality ought to be taught, too, because after all, sooner or later kids will hear about it. They'll ultimately have to decide for themselves.

Wheee! Can't wait for the first "OMG, you compared homosexuality to beastiality" comment. C'mon Frogman, don't let me down!

[Kieran]

Originally posted by Thud
Obviously not, it seems though that you're retracing your steps on the 'gay marriages do affect me and my family' issue. Finally began thinking rationally?

How about you answer the question directly and spare me the condescension?

[Torque]

Originally posted by FUNKED1
IMHO the state should only regulate activities which affects others negatively.  

You mean like calling people "homos"?

Sorry Funk couldn't resist.

[Frogm4n]

Noone is asking anyone to teach buttsex. We are just asking how to people getting married affects your life.

[Martlet]

Originally posted by Frogm4n
Noone is asking anyone to teach buttsex. We are just asking how to people getting married affects your life.

Again, start at the beginning of the thread and read through.  It's been explained several times by several people.  I'm sorry you don't like the answer, but asking the same question over and over again isn't going to result in a different answer.  At least not by me.

[Thud]

Originally posted by Kieran
How about you answer the question directly and spare me the condescension?

The direct answer was in the same sentence, please read again.

[Frogm4n]

Originally posted by Martlet
Again, start at the beginning of the thread and read through.  It's been explained several times by several people.  I'm sorry you don't like the answer, but asking the same question over and over again isn't going to result in a different answer.  At least not by me.

Quote your answer. You have not once stated how 2 gays getting married will affect your life.

[Kieran]

Originally posted by Frogm4n
Noone is asking anyone to teach buttsex. We are just asking how to people getting married affects your life.

I am a teacher. Suppose you tell me how I am going to explain homosexuality without mentioning the sexual aspect?

[Martlet]

Originally posted by Martlet
First, anything that happens in the community affects the children.  If there is a liquor store in the common, it affects the children.  If there is a church downtown, it affects the children.  A community is a melting pot of all the local influences.

Second, let's assume for the sake of this discussion that I am against same sex marriage.  The reason why doesn't matter.  My children go to school.  If they go to school  with the children of a SSM couple, they are affected.  

Regardless of whether or not you agree with SSM or homosexuality, it is a deviant behavior.  As Americans, we accept many deviant behaviors.  What happens in the bedroom, stays in the bedroom.  When you legalize SSM, it's no longer staying in the bedroom.  It's now in the community.

Originally posted by Martlet
I just did.

By teaching my children that what goes on in your bedroom is your business teaches them tolerance.

By teaching my children that homosexuality isn't deviant behavior, but is the same as heterosexuality, goes against some people belief systems.

Originally posted by Martlet
Kieran was right.  It doesn't matter how many times you answer the question, you ignore it and ask the same question over again.  I'll answer it one last time.

Through legalization of SSM, your are inferring that a homosexual relationship is on the same footing as a heterosexual relationship.  Most people don't hold this to be a core belief.

The majority of Americans realize that homosexuality, even though it is a deviant behavior, hurts no one.  Therefore, the regulations surrounding it are being universally lifted in spite of the "yuck" factor.

When you put homosexuality on equal footing as heterosexuality, you are no longer teaching tolerance.  You are forcing the community to accept a deviant behavior as normal.  Again, this goes against some people's core beliefs.

[Frogm4n]

Wow martlet, you really havnt posted a real answer. Noone is going to stop you from teaching your children what you deam is right and wrong.

How does gay marriage affect your community? Any gays that are in it now are already living together so its not like more will move in just because they can get married.


And your right, if you keep using these very flimsy arguements as your core belief you will never change our minds. If you give me a stat that links homosexuals getting married causes straights to become gay, hell i would be against it, but there really is no logical reason to be against it other then cause.

[Frogm4n]

Originally posted by Kieran
I am a teacher. Suppose you tell me how I am going to explain homosexuality without mentioning the sexual aspect?

Why would anyone ask you to teach about homosexuality.